beginner's bonsai

[keokoi]

Quote: Originally Posted by jdfloyd45 Joe , you're gonna need dynamite for that one. Do any of you diggers do this commercially ? And how would you ship a Cal Juni out of state ? Dwight

I don't do it commercially, I do it 100% for the hobby. If I was to ship it out of state on a fesh dig. It would take about 2 year no guarantee that the Juni will survive. When you rape these 100 year old trees out of the ground they don't like it much. The next 2 years of your life is misting foilage and not really too much water at all. after 2 years its still no guarantee that it will like the repot as well.

Doing Cali Juni is a lose lose situation if done commercially. Although I have seen them in some commercial bonsai nurseries they demand a hefty price. It was said in Japan by a friend who is an apprentice for a Bonsai master that, if you can get a coontainer full of Cal Juni's over into Japan you would not have to work the rest of your life..

Does anyone have a submarine I can hide a few of these in

Joe

[keokoi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gail I am looking to try a Ulmus parvifolia ( Chinese Elm) this spring..anyone had any goodl uck with this variety? I know that this species is hardier than the other elm varieties. ANy of the azaleas as well are beautiful.And they are an inexpensive starting plant.

Ulmus parvifolia or chinese elm is a very good tree for Bonsai. Yes they are hearty and and the leaves are pretty decent size for bonsai..

The Azaleas are a different type of bonsai artwork. You really dont touch them a whole lot but you sure do take care of them. We got rid of all of our azalea's (satsukui) so we can concetrate on Juni's and Pines.. (but don't tell Nancy that)


Joe

[dubtaco]

Hi Joe,

Forgive my newbie ignorance when it comes to bonsai, but this is beginner bonsai thread so here goes...

Do you collect from private or BLM land, and is it legal to just dig those junipers up? I'm not going to turn you in, just wondering because I would like to go collecting Utah Junipers from BLM land. I have seen many that I think would make nice specimens near this spot where I go fly fishing.

Could you write up a little tutorial about caring for a juniper after it is collected. You mentioned misting to foliage with water for 2 years and not over watering. Do you have a soil mixture that you have found works best, or do you use as much of the native soil as possible. I assume you use a container that fits the tree, but how much larger than the tree should the container be (height, width, length...).

Sorry for all the questions, but I really want to try yamadori and would like to be successful.

[koiczar]

Joe

You're right, Azaleas are a very different breed of cat. I have a few. A couple from Maruyama in Sacramento and the largest is from a grower in Japan. As far as I know, it's about 50+ years old now.

[keokoi]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubtaco Hi Joe, Forgive my newbie ignorance when it comes to bonsai, but this is beginner bonsai thread so here goes... Do you collect from private or BLM land, and is it legal to just dig those junipers up? I'm not going to turn you in, just wondering because I would like to go collecting Utah Junipers from BLM land. I have seen many that I think would make nice specimens near this spot where I go fly fishing. Could you write up a little tutorial about caring for a juniper after it is collected. You mentioned misting to foliage with water for 2 years and not over watering. Do you have a soil mixture that you have found works best, or do you use as much of the native soil as possible. I assume you use a container that fits the tree, but how much larger than the tree should the container be (height, width, length...). Sorry for all the questions, but I really want to try yamadori and would like to be successful.

Tell you what.. You tell me what weight fly rod to pack and what flies I should be tying and we can talk about your Yamadori experience..

All Jokes aside Kind of... I go collecting on private land that a club I belong to has the rights too so yes I do have a permit as if I get stopped by the cops then I can show them my permit

You can go through BLM or US forest or dept foresty and attain a permit. But they will ask you where what type and how many. Then they will charge you for a permit and the trees each branch works differently..

This is assuming that they approve of it..


Joe

[Nancy M.]

Quote: Originally Posted by keokoi Ulmus parvifolia or chinese elm is a very good tree for Bonsai. Yes they are hearty and and the leaves are pretty decent size for bonsai.. The Azaleas are a different type of bonsai artwork. You really dont touch them a whole lot but you sure do take care of them. We got rid of all of our azalea's (satsukui) so we can concetrate on Juni's and Pines.. (but don't tell Nancy that) Joe

wow, you promised me an Azalea...

[dubtaco]

Quote: Originally Posted by keokoi Tell you what.. You tell me what weight fly rod to pack and what flies I should be tying and we can talk about your Yamadori experience..

No problem, just let me know when you want to come get some real Utah junipers. You show me how to collect, and I'll take you to a blue-ribbon fishing hole.

[keokoi]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubtaco No problem, just let me know when you want to come get some real Utah junipers. You show me how to collect, and I'll take you to a blue-ribbon fishing hole.

in Provo?

[dubtaco]

We could hit the provo, but I was thinking more along the lines of the Green River below Flaming Gorge Dam. Either place would have great fishing and collecting!

[keokoi]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubtaco We could hit the provo, but I was thinking more along the lines of the Green River below Flaming Gorge Dam. Either place would have great fishing and collecting!

I thought if the green river too..
Tiger Woods and his Pal Mark O'meara both can be caught whipping lines oon the green..

Joe