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Russell Peters · 02-11-2007

Sorry, I just could not resist. It is the truth though, just not the kind of gas you might have been thinking of.
We have always used electricity at the store to heat Koi as needed, but now we have gas. I just finished hooking up a `185,000 BTU heater to one of the tanks and it works.

The reason I say that is that it is the first conversion of a natural gas to propane gas that I have done. There were quite a few parts, including electrical parts, that I had to change and I was afraid that, with my luck, it would not work. It does.

It is done just in time for my shipment on the 14th.

koiczar · 02-11-2007

Russ

That's great news! Don't know why you doubted your ability though - LOL

Mike

Russell Peters · 02-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by koiczar

Russ

That's great news! Don't know why you doubted your ability though - LOL

Mike

It wasn't my ability I was doubting, it was the ability of the heater.

koiczar · 02-11-2007

Oh, that makes more sense!!LOL

Danjols · 02-12-2007

Russ, what brand heater are you using?

Russell Peters · 02-12-2007

Raypak.......

Danjols · 02-12-2007

Russ, a few years ago I installed the same brand heater on our pond system. After about 14 months of operation the heat exchanger portion of the heater gave it up. After several discussions with the manufacturer they (the manufacturer) determined the heater was not designed for pond water (something about the make-up of pond water). Anyway, after you mentioned gas heater my thoughts of what I went through came back to me. I wonder if the newer heaters are now able to handle pond water?

Russell Peters · 02-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danjols

Russ, a few years ago I installed the same brand heater on our pond system. After about 14 months of operation the heat exchanger portion of the heater gave it up. After several discussions with the manufacturer they (the manufacturer) determined the heater was not designed for pond water (something about the make-up of pond water). Anyway, after you mentioned gas heater my thoughts of what I went through came back to me. I wonder if the newer heaters are now able to handle pond water?

I have had this heater running on my pond at home for four years, no problems.

PapaBear · 02-12-2007

There may have been some specifics about the mineral content of your pond water that caused the problem. The wrong combination of CO2, O2, and Iron in water can produce acids that rapidly attack unprotected metals. That being said, the addition of a secondary anode to improve cathodic protection to the coil should easily solve the problem.

02-11-2007	#1 (permalink)
Russell Peters Honmei Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Martinez,CA Posts: 4,488	PSKoi has Gas! Sorry, I just could not resist. It is the truth though, just not the kind of gas you might have been thinking of. We have always used electricity at the store to heat Koi as needed, but now we have gas. I just finished hooking up a `185,000 BTU heater to one of the tanks and it works. The reason I say that is that it is the first conversion of a natural gas to propane gas that I have done. There were quite a few parts, including electrical parts, that I had to change and I was afraid that, with my luck, it would not work. It does. It is done just in time for my shipment on the 14th.

02-12-2007	#9 (permalink)
PapaBear Oyagoi Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Davenport, Oklahoma Posts: 1,769	Danjols There may have been some specifics about the mineral content of your pond water that caused the problem. The wrong combination of CO2, O2, and Iron in water can produce acids that rapidly attack unprotected metals. That being said, the addition of a secondary anode to improve cathodic protection to the coil should easily solve the problem.

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02-11-2007	#2 (permalink)
koiczar Oyagoi Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,174	Russ That's great news! Don't know why you doubted your ability though - LOL Mike

02-11-2007	#4 (permalink)
koiczar Oyagoi Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,174	Oh, that makes more sense!!LOL

02-12-2007	#5 (permalink)
Danjols Sansai Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 170	Russ, what brand heater are you using?

02-12-2007	#6 (permalink)
Russell Peters Honmei Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Martinez,CA Posts: 4,488	Raypak.......

02-12-2007	#7 (permalink)
Danjols Sansai Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 170	Russ, a few years ago I installed the same brand heater on our pond system. After about 14 months of operation the heat exchanger portion of the heater gave it up. After several discussions with the manufacturer they (the manufacturer) determined the heater was not designed for pond water (something about the make-up of pond water). Anyway, after you mentioned gas heater my thoughts of what I went through came back to me. I wonder if the newer heaters are now able to handle pond water?