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Old 03-28-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Mike Snaden's quest for 80cm

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Have any of you subscribe to nishikigoi tv and seen the viewers pond (james carter). A few of the koi that mike has put in koi bito's article, the 80cm quest have reached the 80cm mark before their 5th birthday some quite a few months before their 5th birthday.

Thats got to be fun

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Neat. I'd like to see an update on all of them. How about here on K-B?
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Yeah will be nice.Always exciting to see kois grow to 80cm or more.
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Neat. I'd like to see an update on all of them. How about here on K-B?
Hey Mike

Dont knwo whether that will happen cos mike snaden pretty busy.

If i remember correctly cliff and another hobbyist grew koi to over 70cm by their second bday. That was in the last instalment in KB. I wonder just how big they are now.

Hebetoo the BKKS grand champion was about 96cm last i heard, absolutely massive

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Yeah will be nice.Always exciting to see kois grow to 80cm or more.
hey koiman

sadly in australia we struggle to get them past 65cm, most of the GCs are males at around 60 to 62cm in the koi shows..... sigh

females seem to roe up too much on one side and lost the symmetry of the body..... i wonder if its genetic or the fact most aussies dont have amudpond to put their fish in

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Sadly, Hebeetoo died last year after being spawned. 97cms was the last I heard.

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TEWA,
After looking at your web site, it looks like you are importing Momotaro koi into Australia. I thought Australia had a ban on importing koi. Has the ban been lifted?
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[quote=tewa;79142]hey koiman

sadly in australia we struggle to get them past 65cm, most of the GCs are males at around 60 to 62cm in the koi shows..... sigh

females seem to roe up too much on one side and lost the symmetry of the body..... i wonder if its genetic or the fact most aussies dont have amudpond to put their fish in

Size is mostly determined by genetics so large parents produce large offspring . As to body shape a mud pond helps greatly but a major factor are seasons . I think that control of feeding is more difficult if you do not have seasons . You really need to have seperate ponds for young fish growing and males and females that way you have some control of feeding .
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Sadly, Hebeetoo died last year after being spawned. 97cms was the last I heard.

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hey bern

that is a pity she was a great fish, cliff did real well to grow her from 86 to 97. She must have been massive just before she died, real shame.

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hey koiman

sadly in australia we struggle to get them past 65cm, most of the GCs are males at around 60 to 62cm in the koi shows..... sigh

females seem to roe up too much on one side and lost the symmetry of the body..... i wonder if its genetic or the fact most aussies dont have amudpond to put their fish in

Size is mostly determined by genetics so large parents produce large offspring . As to body shape a mud pond helps greatly but a major factor are seasons . I think that control of feeding is more difficult if you do not have seasons . You really need to have seperate ponds for young fish growing and males and females that way you have some control of feeding .
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Hi eugene

we do have seasons here in australia but i think too many of us are guilty of over feeding in winter as they seem to be begging for food as you walk up to the pond

at a hobbyist level its quite hard to have three ponds one for growing on, one for males and a larger one for females. Most of the backyard breeders i know tend to have more space for their fry. adult male and female tend to be together, this often results in pack rape and mass spawnings inside the pond several times a year

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