that right, Super, in Japan ! Brett never have showa. last year he has lot of dinachi showa, i bought 5, now probably keep only 2. Japan koi dealer in town never have showa, last year have couple, i bought 4, now keep only 1. man, try to buy a 15" showa will be easier, but rarely have. tomorow, i head on to San Antonio for the hunt. Mr Ray and his friend probably waiting with a sharp knife! All my showa 8" is in the range of 100-200, but still don't look as good as JKO. thank again to all your reply.