which type of hi would you prefer on a Kohaku?...

[mojo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Super Kindai Which beni would you like?

both, i can't help, Super

[kingkong]

This would be nice.

[kevan]

when a koi is finished for me there is only one colour, pure bright red!

simple really!

no orange shades and no purple shades, no black shades, no pink shades, just pure RED. once you have pure red all other colours look tainted and for me, much less impressive next to it. still if you like other colours than pure red then that is your personal taste. but the safer bet if you want an off red for me is a slighly orange red as colour tends to get darker not lighter.

[Sangreaal]

One thing I have noticed in my school of kohaku is that the hi can appear orange persimmon from one angle and red persimmon from another--so vantage point has a another bearing on what I see in my pond. What is the true color, then, of what I'm seeing?

[Gail]

I sway towards the blue red as opposed to the orange.......just a preference?

[koiczar]

[quote=Eugeneg;79252]

Quote: Originally Posted by Koimann If have to choose between the 2,I prefer cherry hi.I like soft pink to red type of hi.The kois from Toshio Sakai have very nice hi. The red type of hi I have found breaks down faster compated to the orange type . The red type is better for pet fish because it looks finished a lot sooner . On the fish from Toshio which I have it has taken 4 years before the hi started to look good . So a lot depends on ones tastes for instant gratification and earlier loss or long term . In Canada nearly all fish are killed within year or two because of unsuitable overwintering ponds and the bright red hi is favoured . Regards Eugene

Eugene

I couldn't agree more!! The "purple" based beni is usually found on males that are finishing up at an early age. Then people buy it at Nisai, try to push the growth and BANG - ALL GONE!! It's like Sakai says, you want beni to look like nice even layers of paint that are applied one coat at a time. This type of beni is a yellow/orange based and is very elastic, allowing the fish to put on a lot of growth in the mud ponds without breaking apart. Seeing fish come out of the mudponds it's easy to spot the ones that have put out an incredible growth spurt over the past 3-4 months. The beni looks lighter with darker centers to the scales and sometimes the spacing between the scales almost looks like it is breaking. You have to look very closely to make sure. These are the fish that will, over winter, start to tighten up the scale spacing (kinda nature's way of armor plated protection from disease) and begin to show off the beauty they have developed in secret while living the good life in the mud for the past summer.

For me, I still don't have a specific color preference. I like the beni to be thick, elastic and homogenous throughout the entire patterning of the fish. If it's in it's developmental stages, the center of the scales should show a darker pigment than the outer edges. That is a sign that the beni is still "coming" and the artist has not yet finished his work. This is what a breeder defines as "Tategoi". Their dreams and ours begin and end with this type of fish!!

Mike

[Super Kindai]

Quote: Originally Posted by mojo both, i can't help, Super

Sorry for a small pic again. yes, both A' & B' beni are good but A is 1 or maybe 2 steps higher level than B which is good as the ordinary high level (?)
It will be hard to find....but A' type beni become an extremely beautifull in future

[xiaohuang7]

dianichi bloodline dark red for me, i don't care if it turns white later, its feels good, like putting off taxes until the last minute