Is Sumi with Marusome Kiwa Unique to Matsunosuke?

[Sangreaal]

Quote: Originally Posted by dick benbow thanks for posting the sanke and bekko pics. Try not to take TOO long to get the kohaku's posted. Glad you had fun!

Hmmmmm de hummmmmm de hummmmmmmm........



Dick, if perchance you ever get down this way, we'll have to go visit Richard together. There's so much to see and my pics just don't do justice where it's due....

[Sangreaal]

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Rombold Hey folks, I think we all agree that Marie takes nice photos which are only surpassed by her eloquent and overly enthusiastic praise, but what do you think of the fish. Good, bad or ugly the reason this thread exists is to hear your critiques. Pleasant praise is nice, but that is what happens at other boards. Here it's brass knuckle critique and honest discussion.

There you are!

*mumbles something inaudible but overly enthusiastic and just smiles*

I was hoping for some discussions on sumi development to spawn from this, comparisons of different types of sumi from Sanke to Showa, the nature of koi development and so on as well. We're here to learn, aren't we?

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sangreaal There you are! *mumbles something inaudible but overly enthusiastic and just smiles* I was hoping for some discussions on sumi development to spawn from this, comparisons of different types of sumi from Sanke to Showa, the nature of koi development and so on as well. We're here to learn, aren't we?

Maybe it is my computer, or my eyes, but most of the pictures seem blurry and too dark. A lot of the closeups are not bright enough so the sumi is very hard to judge. It seems thick but looks flat. I just can't tell.

[Sangreaal]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell Peters Maybe it is my computer, or my eyes, but most of the pictures seem blurry and too dark. A lot of the closeups are not bright enough so the sumi is very hard to judge. It seems thick but looks flat. I just can't tell.

Hmmm...they look pretty clear and sharp on my machine. Let me see if I can find some closer brighter shots to peruse. That sumi is thick and glossy like goth lipstick in person. Skin is like silk. Maybe Richard has some from his camera, which does a much better job than mine....

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sangreaal Hmmm...they look pretty clear and sharp on my machine. Let me see if I can find some closer brighter shots to peruse. That sumi is thick and glossy like goth lipstick in person. Skin is like silk. Maybe Richard has some from his camera, which does a much better job than mine....

Hey, I know, it is probably your eyes.LOL

[luke frisbee]

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Rombold aquitori, All of my Sanke are descended from the original Jimbei parents I purchased from Grant in the early 90's. The one exception was a male sanke, bred by Suda, I purchased in '97. It was the combination of these lines that formed the beginning of what we are seeing here now. Richard

Ya got lots and lots of wonderful fish. Sanke ain't my cup of tea but it doesn't matter at this size anyway...
You want a Bare-Knuckled critique...

Your fry seem very healthy, bright, and have enormous potential. I agree with Sangreaal's choice of the Bekko's. Other than that they are Pipsqueaks...given the opportunity I would be willing to purchase a bunch and grow them on as they do hold immense potential....

There that is all anyone can say...they have potential and look like they were raised well.

I am impressed with what was outside the water...you've got some really nice systems for dealing with fish..I'd like to see more of that stuff...
and older fish...INDIVIDUAL older fish..or at least narrow it down to 3-6 of em and ask us to rate em ...

[Sangreaal]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell Peters Hey, I know, it is probably your eyes.LOL

That's a possibility, Russ. That, and I'm seeing that photobucket does some downsizing when I upload, which might have something to do with it. Still looking for some decent close ups. My camera can only do so much without tweaking things with Corel, which would defeat the purpose of seeing what I saw when I was seeing it. *LOL* I hope Richard has some good raw shots in 10 megapixels. I'm coming up empty on this end....

[dick benbow]

I think what impresses me overall, from the sanke to bekko to kohaku is there are lots of different patterns. Often times at this stage i would see many
Omoyo and heavy two step patterns. But not the case with this latest crop of SJ koi.

Some of the skin and sumi on the bekkos made it obvious that there were some very nice koi there. I'm sure some of the gosanke had it also but the pics were not quite as clear so as to tell so clearly. The little 3 step kohaku sure was nice.

I, like Richard,....appreciate your enthusiasm for the hobby,Marie....Don't ever change!

[dick benbow]

I'd select the sanke in the last sanke photo that's in the middle of the photo pointing at 12 oclock. Really like the bekko in the net. and were several kohakus including tancho's that were nice!

[Richard Rombold]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell Peters Maybe it is my computer, or my eyes, but most of the pictures seem blurry and too dark. A lot of the closeups are not bright enough so the sumi is very hard to judge. It seems thick but looks flat. I just can't tell.

Russ,

I have been trying to get my head around this sumi too. It's thick, thick, thick, but so thick that there is no dimension to it. Take the fish out of the water and you can see how it's lacquer and silky, but in the water it's simply the absence of light. These being young fish means a lot can change, but the few examples of this sumi that cropped up last year are stellar at two years and improving. I'll try to get some uncompressed, but downsized images up later tonight. By the way, tank temps hit 43F this morning so I pulled the plug on all the tategoi and returned them to their warmer ponds.

Richard