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Old 04-05-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Sumi of sanke/showa

Would some one explain the following questions that I always have problem:

1. What is the difference, in structure, between the jet black sanke sumi and the typical duller showa sumi?

2. Sumi over beni (kasane) is generally getting solid and powerful way ahead of sumi over shiroji. This condition could be permanent in low and middle class showa. So does the beni assist sumi in anyway other than just an optic illusion?

3. Somebody claimed that certain pepples of silica would assist strong development of sumi when incorporated in the filtration system. But sicila is an inert material, how can it helps sumi?

Thanks. MA. Le
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Old 04-06-2007   #2 (permalink)
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you ask some difficult questions but i hate to see a thread go unanswered...so I'll try.

Originally showa had second class black until recently when today's modern breeders began incorporating the blue black of sanke into their showa lines with good results. Toshio sakai has wonderful marusome black on his new showas,

My understanding is that with sumi you want to inspect the black that comes thru the white to get an honest appraisal of the quality, red does seem to inhance the sumi appearance.

I knew of one dealer that used silica sand as a polishing filter before return to the pond and he could get black to come up on even the most difficult koi.
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MA.le:
You've asked about one of my favorite topics. Wish I had the full answers!

I am not sure if I understand exactly what you are asking in regard to the "structure" of Sanke sumi vs Showa sumi. I do believe there is a difference, at least so long as not looking at those Showa whose genetics have become more Sanke than Showa. But, I think the main difference is in the molecular structure and placement of the pigment within the cells of the skin layers, but there may just be a difference in the pigment itself. It is a question of the density of the pigment. Over 20 years ago, Japanese researchers described the melanophores of carp as being like a woven basket. They leak melanin (black pigment), like water placed in a basket. If the genetics result in melanophores with a very tight weave, the skin darkens. If the melanophores are close together and "tightly woven", you will see a black spot on the skin. For the genetics to give you the visible spot of black, the proper raw materials must be present. One is silicon. Hard water is typically high in silicon. So, you will be told that hard water is good for sumi development.

Cell structure is just part of the equation. Another part is the skin structure. In young fry there is often a camouflage of black pigment which fades away after several months. Such "baby sumi" is in the uppermost layer of the skin. There are at least two theories about why the sumi fades. One is that as the young fish grows, the melanophore wall stretches, allowing the melanin to diffuse. Closely related is the idea that the melanophores in such fish simply dissolve. Another theory is that the fish is genetically programmed to produce less melanin. All of these notions may be correct in one specific instance or another... or maybe all are wrong. We often talk about sumi rising, as if the sumi is in a lowermost level of the skin and is coming up to the outermost layer. This is not a physically accurate idea, although it is very poetic in describing what we see. (JR has commented a number of times that what is occurring is consolidation of black pigment, not movement of the pigment through the skin layers, but I like the visual impression of the phrase "rising sumi".) What occurs is the thickening of the black pigment in the skin... melanophores "filled" with melanin and in close promity... a profusion of melanophores. And, this pigment need not be limited to a single layer of the skin. Think of there being melanophores in just the top layer in one fish and in three layers in another and in only a middle layer in a third fish. The sumi will be blackest where it is both concentrated in a layer of skin and thick in the sense of several overlying layers of such black skin. Query: Where the sumi is relatively concentrated in just a middle layer, is the visual effect what we call "kage sumi"?

Now, think of structure in another way. If you look at the typical Sanke, you will see that the sumi appears in a series of tightly concentrated specks which give a mottled effect that gradually becomes a nice solid spot. I call it "confetti"... as if overlapping pieces of black confetti finally become so numerous that the mottled effect gives way to solid lacquer black. Shiro Bekko show what I mean very well. In these fish, the melanophores align with each other in a particular way. In comparison, Showa have what I call "watercolor sumi". The melanophores are more loosely aligned. There have to be at least 5 different sumi concentrating behaviors in Showa. (See the "Rainbow of Showa" thread where I've been tracking some Showa.) Going back in time, the tendency was for Showa sumi to concentrate slowly in the thin outer layer of each scale with the deepening pigment being greater at the edge of each scale, giving the impression of watercolor pooling at the edge of each scale. This would be occurring either before, after or at the same time as the sumi concentrated in the skin around the scales... giving many different impressions to the human eye.

As Dick pointed out, good Sanke sumi has a blue-black cast to it. In early Showa, the sumi was more brown-black. The "confetti" structure of melanophoes in the skin seems to be linked to the blue-black pigment. The "watercolor" structure of melanophores seems to be linked to the brown-black pigment. Today, Showa have been so cross-bred with Sanke/Bekko/Kohaku that these generalities are less true than in the past, and perhaps best seen in the least desirable examples of the variety.

Well, I'm running long to the point of drivel. But, one more thought: Asagi. The blue scales often take on their color in a "watercolor" sort of fashion, while the unsightly black specks that can mar an Asagi appear more "confetti" like. Asagi are at the root of everything when it comes to koi.

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Nice post Mike. Thanks!
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Ghee! I got replies from 2, out of 3 or 4, of the most loved and respected persons in this board. How lucky for me today?

DickB, if I grind the silica pepples in a container with water turbulent current induced by an air stone .... do you think that the design is still OK? this way it would save a lot of room. Mr. Waldington employed a similar design to get the akalinity at the desired level.

MikeM, please allow quality time for digestion this long essay. "Structure" in my questions means "cell structure", and not having anything to do with "atomic structure"! I am sure there would be many questions to follow from many "tategoi" brain! MA. Le
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