whats a tategoi??

[k.tran]

any1 can tell me the definitin of a tategoi that would be great b/c i am kida confused atm

[KoiCop]

Kelvin . . .

At the very, very simplest level a tategoi is an unfinished koi with great potential.

The word is often misused; especially in marketing.

At its highest level, tategoi speaks to a breeder's vision. When a breeder looks at his koi's potential today and sees that the koi will continue to develop and get much, much better -- years and years down the road -- then that koi can be considered tategoi.

If tategoi, a breeder can charge today what it will be worth next year or the year after -- if he will even sell it, at all.

Very few tategoi ever leave Japan, and that's why most top hobbyists are so tight with use of that oft abused adjective.

Hey, did you see what JR posted this morning to your other thread re: use of the word tategoi? If you haven't, he said:

When asked if a baby fish is a tategoi, even that word will have two distinct meanings:

1) does the fish have a chance to improve based on what is seen today? Maybe for one more year? Or two more years? Remember, all tategoi are unfinished but not all unfinished fish are tategoi.

2) does the fish have ALL the elements present that suggest it will be tategoi for many years and then come together as a finished high grade koi at 76 cm?

[Super Kindai]

Here we go.....

[gspotmc]

Hi Don,
Very nice comment. As other people were saying. That word is over used most of the time. Kelvin, this board is about learning and friendship. If you ask for an opinion. You may or you may not like what others will comment about certain fish but after everything is said. You be able to dissect whatever you've read and learn from it. Have a good day.

Mikey

[dcny]

another famous tategoi...

[mynamy1]

OK, are you going to show us the swan soon? MA.Le

[Super Kindai]

Quote: Originally Posted by dcny another famous tategoi...

.....bone structure, body flow and quality, quality, quality

[aquitori]

Quote: Originally Posted by k.tran any1 can tell me the definitin of a tategoi that would be great b/c i am kida confused atm

Tategoi doesnt exist outside of Japan, just to put it simply. What exists outside of Japan is Tateshita. The key word is Tate(SHIT)a..... That should answer your question....

[RayJordan]

Tategoi means much more than just an unfinished koi that will become 2X's or 3X's more valuable. Tategoi is an unfinished koi that will become at least 10X's more valuable.

Tategoi Tosai = $10,000 to $20,000 or more
Tategoi Nisai = $20,000 to $50,000 or more
Tategoi Sansai = $50,000 or more

[aquitori]

I think for some of us who have gone to Japan, the term has a bit more credibilty when the Japanese Breeder uses it. But when it is used here in the states it sounds like a marketing gimmick.

Let's just put it this way, we all have a different definition of tategoi, but we dont have a clue what a tategoi should look like.