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Old 07-06-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Do you enter your koi if the koi show was in 100 degree heat and out doors?

Do you enter your koi if the koi show was in 100 degree heat and outdoors?
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That is what happens every year at the Dutch Koi Show in Arcen. They always have multiple spawnings, other than that the show does not seem to present any problems for the Koi.

The Portland Show has also been known to reach those temperatures. I think we suffer more than the Koi.
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At 100F the fish stay home, and so do I.
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We don't get 100 degrees in Arcen (Dutch Show) 70-80's tops and the waters cooler.

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I would not take my koi to a show where the enviornment was unsuitable or even dangerous to my koi. I remember a show one year in April where the temperture went sky high the week before the show. From the low 80's to 100+ in a few days. the show site was in a city park with koi show tanks located on a asphalt parking lot without any shade. My koi stayed home but I went and enjoyed the event. I was sure glad my koi stayed home as there were several koi that had problems as a result of the hot weather.

It is not just weather issues however that might concern me. The most important persons at a koi show is the water quality team. Make sure they are experienced because even with good weather water quality can be a issue. Fortunately there is a adaquate supply of these talented people available for most show I attend.

I can't imagine any water quality issues at the Dutch National show in Arcen. Or any other issues except for the best of the best. Every tank is shaded and has it's own seperate filtration system. Show water is sterilized via ozone and stored in huge tanks for any water change needs. A large group of very experienced and talented volunteers including water quality team that any show could only hope to have.
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.......and last year's judges were top calibre too as I recall

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Just wanted to get thoughts on this issue, since temps here on the West Coast and around the country are hitting the triple digits...
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Sorry, we've taken it off track.

Yeah! 100% degrees and I'd be worried.
I'd assume that local koi would be experiencing similar ambient temperatures in their pond so temperature shock would be avoided, but I'd want to see extra air for a start.

But, it's all hyperthetical to me. 100% isn't a temperature we see over here.

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We don't get 100 degrees in Arcen (Dutch Show) 70-80's tops and the waters cooler.

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Hi Bern,

Four or five years ago my wife and I went to the Arcen Show. We went two years in a row. The first year was very hot, high 80's low 90's. The second year we went it just about hit 100. It seemed that the biggest problem was the many spawnings that took place.

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I think the short answer is no. Even under shade if it is 100dF outside the water is probably going to be too warm. I think the question should be directed more toward how warm the water is and possibly night to day flucuations in water temp than just air temp alone, but let's face it, 100dF air temp would be tough on everyone. Having done many shows inside and outdoors, I start to get anxious when show tank water temps start to go above 75dF.

In warmer water fish are much more active, have higher metabolic rate, and produce more ammonia. While you can counter the ammonia with products like Amquel and ClorAmX, etc. you can not control the appearance or odor of the water without doing water change outs. The warmer the water and the higher the pH the greater percentage of TAN will be the lethal form ammonia (NH3). Throw in factors such as a small quantity of water and possible overloaded tanks, and/or poor show prep of the fish and you are really pushing the stress factor in warmer water.

I'm with Ray, why take the risk.
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