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Old 09-03-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Please rate kohaku and sanke

Please be honest !!!!!
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Who are the breeders of the fish....? Also will need a better pic of Sanke.
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hI TONY,
NO. 1 KOHAKU BREEDER IS TOSHIO ACQUIRED LAST MARCH 8 TO 9 INCHES SHE IS 15IN. RIGHT NOW. SANKE IS FROM OGATA ACQUIRED AS NISAI 15 INCHES DURING THAT TIME NOW SHE IS GOING FOUR IN NOVEMBER SIZE IS 23 INCHES. LAST KOHAKU IS FROM MARUYAMA ACQUIRED LAST MAY FOR THE SAKURA YOUNG KOI SHOW. sHE'S 11 INCHES THEN NOW SHE IS AT 17 INCHES. SORRY ABOUT THE SANKE PICTURE. WILL TRY TO POST ONE TOMORROW.
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I don't think you need a better picture of the Sanke, you need a better Sanke. Looks like a nice body though.

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I like the Sakai Kohaku best. Everything looks good.

The other two seem too heavy in the abdomen, but if the pics were taken shortly after coming out of the mud, that explains a lot. Their bodies are otherwise good.

I'm uncertain of Russ' concern about the Sanke. I expect that in person it is not as red (more on the orange side?)and the sashi may clear up in another year. Maybe Russ will explain his concerns a bit more.
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I like both kohaku's, toshio's for it's quiet quality and Maruyama for it's interesting pattern.

While the sanke has it's black in the white which seems to indicate some stability, the sumi is less than dynamic. To me I want to see something big and bold and exciting on the shoulder. It just doesn't do it for me. And while I'm happy to see black in the tail itself which may indicate some stronger black in there lurking ( as opposed to clear pecs and tail).

I quess that's the trouble with asking other's their opinion. We all have different learning histories and pattern favorites making a concensus sometimes difficult. I do thank you for posting. I think we all learn in these things....
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I like the Sakai Kohaku best. Everything looks good.

The other two seem too heavy in the abdomen, but if the pics were taken shortly after coming out of the mud, that explains a lot. Their bodies are otherwise good.

I'm uncertain of Russ' concern about the Sanke. I expect that in person it is not as red (more on the orange side?)and the sashi may clear up in another year. Maybe Russ will explain his concerns a bit more.
Yes, the Sanke is, or looks like a Gin Rin, but is very dull. At almost four years old it is very lack luster and messy. Too much Beni, for me, on the head, and the quality of the beni looks bad. The sumi is flat. It is not a very pleasing Koi.
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