nisei koi farm goshiki

[HEADACHE6]

I remember Looking at those Kohaku for over an hour in Dec. , ask Mat .

[JasPR]

This koi farm is one of our national treasures! But I'm not in love with the ginrin! Too many things going against that fish- weak area of beni mixed with gin. flat cut of kiwa across the back on the trailing edge of the first first step is always a problem to balance in the second half of the fish. Red in the pecs. I know the beni will be pulled in with time but never completely and this fish does not have enough to disregard that red in the fins.
The pluses for this fish is the nice figure and the head. Really good. The fish is laid out well and has good skin. But for me, this is an 'if only' fish. Sorry.

JR

[MikeM]

Well, I've held off as long as I can. First, love what you've done growing these, Dick. They have the fullness I'd expect from a mudpond. Your feeding regimen shows. Second, how could you take on tosai like this?... It's going to be years to figure out what you have!

Of the two, I prefer the gin rin. I just like the overall look. JR makes excellent points (as usual). If it was a Ginrin Kohaku, that would be all to be said. As a Ginrin Goshiki, I see it as a unique koi on which the motoaka can add a dimension, as it would in an Ochiba. What I really find interesting, however, is that I cannot recall seeing a Ginrin Goshiki of this sort before. Mostly I see gray-bodied ones. The ginrin makes the base look like crumpled aluminum... but the ginrin is typicallu uneven. (A very striking type when you first see it, but messy upon inspection.) I don't know what to expect with this fish. Will the sumi rise to create an overall blue-effect under the ginrin? Or, will it be just areas of deeper color within the white? Will it eventually have a reticulated gray & black scale, and if so how does the ginrin affect the look? Will the red be strong enough to stay free of gray/black intrusions? If so, the motoaka will be like wings and the overall appearance will not be quite like Goshiki at all. Just might become a koi Dr. Kuroki would have given a fancy new name.

[dick benbow]

I hope other's see this thread the way I do.....

You have someone who posted who is pretty proud of the growth rate and
general health and development of the koi and the breeder who made them.

you have a respected judge who knows what it takes to win in shows

and we have your comments that seem to say that there are other ways to view koi...that part of the journey is to patiently await the outcome. If it falls short of show criteria will it still be the owner's special koi they look for each morning that brings them joy.

I quess that's what makes this chat line a sounding board for different viewpoints. Each valid yet helpfull in understanding the different ways to enjoy this hobby