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Old 09-12-2007   #21 (permalink)
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Ray, I think we were twins separated at birth! LOls JR
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Old 09-12-2007   #22 (permalink)
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I lost over half of my collection to odinium in the last year and I agree with what the others have been saying. Get back up and continue forward, but this time do it with the knowledge you have gained from your loss. That being said this thread seems to have been started for no reason we have all lost fish in the past. Why open up old wounds, it just seems pointless
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Old 09-12-2007   #23 (permalink)
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Not pointless Cody! It helps folks to know they are not as unusually stupid as they feel when they loose a fish.

On the other hand, there will always be those AHs who use a tragedy like that to put another person down. If you run into one of these people, you will notice they always seem do it behind the fellows back. (Just thought it was appropriate to post that comment on this particular string.)

How many of you have lost them to chlorine/chloramine because you didn’t have a timer. Better, how many of you have a timer on your makeup now. I know 12 people, beginners and old timers, who have lost koi to this very common mistake this year. Get a timer and head off this one problem. You will kill many others so don’t worry about being left out.
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Old 09-12-2007   #24 (permalink)
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Rich I hope you are not reffering to me as one of those AH's, becuase that would be out of line on your part, esspecialy because as I just stated I lost half of my collection in the past year to disease
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Not pointless Cody! It helps folks to know they are not as unusually stupid as they feel when they loose a fish.

On the other hand, there will always be those AHs who use a tragedy like that to put another person down. If you run into one of these people, you will notice they always seem do it behind the fellows back. (Just thought it was appropriate to post that comment on this particular string.)

How many of you have lost them to chlorine/chloramine because you didn’t have a timer. Better, how many of you have a timer on your makeup now. I know 12 people, beginners and old timers, who have lost koi to this very common mistake this year. Get a timer and head off this one problem. You will kill many others so don’t worry about being left out.
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Old 09-12-2007   #25 (permalink)
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Face it, the moment you spend $75k on a bunch of koi you are $75k poorer.

The resale value is next to nothing. James has called them cut flowers because they are usually sold at their peak and usually go down hill from there. What's the best you can hope for? That they remain pretty for another five years?

Loosing them all at once is tramatic. Waching them blossom and fade little-by-little, day-after-day is interesting and entertaining. But, the end result is the same; you are $75k poorer.

If you think of the money lost when a koi dies, then you are spending more than you should.

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Old 09-12-2007   #26 (permalink)
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I am shocked to know you lost lost your collection. honestly didn't know that.

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I know the collection I lost 2 years ago, was hard...(yeah it was my fault)...It took me over 2 years to recover mentally...There were many sentimental fish in that pond and some were my closest friends in the hobby who trusted me to condition their fish for show. I think that is what hurt me the most, but as time went on I had enough strenght to buy some fish again to begin the process again. What did I learn from that accident, a $10-15 water timer would have saved what I lost.

Be it $75 or $75,000 dollars it stills hurts the heart, mind and the pocket.
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Old 09-12-2007   #27 (permalink)
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Yep, cut flowers or in this case a better description might be an opened bottle of fine wine. Once it is owned and opened, it is to be enjoyed as there is no 'unopening' of the bottle. So sometimes the bottle spills before you get to leisurely enjoy it. Or heaven forbid, the entire wine rack collapses!
So don't buy beyond your means and don't buy too many ( koiaholics are not unlike alcoholics!). And if you have expensive taste in wine and koi, heaven help you! JR
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Cody . . .

Relax. Rich wasn't firing at you.

His shot was aimed at those holier than thou hobbyists who run down other hobbyists over these kinds of tragedies -- like they never killed any fish, themselves. Yeah, right.

Let's face it. If one's been in this hobby for any length of time you've killed fish -- and I'm not talking onezies or twozies, either. Unfortunately, that's part of the steep learning curve we've all had to negotiate.
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I am shocked to know you lost lost your collection. honestly didn't know that.

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It happened 2 months before the ABAKS Show....
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Old 09-13-2007   #30 (permalink)
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Yea Cody, That wasn't aimed at you.

I lost 25 adults a few years ago. (There I go lying again.) I killed 25 adults a few years ago. The major way koi die is through mishandling. When we loose one, it's a chance to learn something new.

I really do hope the water timer comment wasn't missed in the distraction.
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