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Old 12-05-2007   #31 (permalink)
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lol.....no problem at all Lee. I would be delighted to attend a meeting. I am not yet a member....but will soon get my money off to Dale to become one.
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Old 12-05-2007   #32 (permalink)
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It will be an honour of the Cayman Island Koi Club to welcome you!

My dear friend,

I am deeply honoured to encourage your membership and your sending your 2007 membership fee to Mr. Dale Torok at his Broadway Street office address in Lexington Kentucky.

As you are aware, all of the money received goes 100% to KHV research and education. Thus, it goes to serve everyone in the koi hobby.

The membership pin, however, grants you full voting rights, as well as, membership and the opportunity to run for office in the Cayman Island Koi Club. And, it also requires you to attend meetings at your will and choice.

When the original members first drew up the rules for membership it was Mr. Dale Torok himself who proposed that the first rule for membership required the member choosing to join...had to want to become a member.

Thus, your wanting to be a member is mandatory, then comes the purchase of the pin. Followed by your receipt and wearing of the pin.

As you may be aware, we have not any adgenda for the next meeting, nor have we a set of officers, yet determined. However, I am most hopeful that you would consider some post in our club...as a club is only as good as the directors who administrate the club's activities. And, as the present the only activity has been the drinking of iced BBD rum and coke or Red Stripe Beer and sitting around the club's swimming pool and telling each other elaborate lies about the quality of our ponds and our koi.


We may require other activities in future?

However, I personally believe these are adaquate activities for any properly run koi Cayman Island located koi club. Indeed, you may have other ideas. And, those ideas are certainly encouraged and welcomed..."after you become a member".

With warmest hugs,

Lee Aronfeld
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Old 12-05-2007   #33 (permalink)
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Hi Lee,

May I offer my services as a club member also holding dual status in other koi clubs as a Minister Plenipotentiary from the Shasta Koi Club in Redding, CA to the Cayman Islands Koi Club. I am sure that I can experience the taste of BBD rum and coke or Red Stripe Beer In Abstencia (the straight forward dictionary meaning, not the legal use) whilst relaxing by my pond and contemplating the growth of my koi.

And, who knows I may manage to overcome my strong aversion to long travels and someday make it to the islands.

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Old 12-05-2007   #34 (permalink)
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Briefest response possible....as required by Dale Torok

NO.

We are totally non-political. Sorry.

(A ministers plenipotentiary as everyone knows is a diplomatic representative ranking below an ambassador but having full governmental power and authority; e.g. a plenipotentiary.)

Thus, our not having that particular office available on our Board what would be your next suggestion for an office in the Cayman Island Koi Club?

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Has the clubs Prime Minister of Alcohol (bartender) been chosen yet? If not, I throw my shotglass in the ring for that position. If elected I promise to sample every drink I mix (by drinking about half of it) just too make sure they are perfect for our members.
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I volunteer to write the bylaws, which will be the most thorough and complete of any koi club in the world. I promise to commence this undertaking immediately and to conclude it within 10 years of an Austrailian-bred koi winning Grand Champion at the Shinkokai All-Japan Show. In the meantime, there can be no debates or discussions about the governing rules. I will entertain suggestions from all, including non-members... after all, it is a very inclusive club.

Among my ideas is to have a bylaw prohibiting distribution of the bylaws to members. Non-members need to know the rules in advance of joining, so they will be distributed to all non-members who keep koi or want to think about keeping koi; but once they join bylaws just cause arguments. So, all members must find a non-member to give their copy as soon as they join. It builds collegiality to not have any rules available, don't you think?
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Old 12-06-2007   #37 (permalink)
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What about.....

A possible solution to the two previous threads. What if the directors names remain secret and the by laws are never published nor released?

However, on a more serious note. Why haven't more koi hobbyist made the ten dollar donation and received in return - full membership in the Cayman Island Koi Club and membership pin?

At the end of the day, all joking aside, this money we are raising is going 100% towards finding a cure, helping in research and adding to the education of KHV; a known killer of koi for which there is NO known cure?

It is embarassing that these are actual hobbyists who post upon this board, as well as, breeders, dealers, etc...and, they have NOT shook lose with a ten dollar bill which some day may produce the answer to this dread disease which now threatens their very own koi collection.

When I was a kid when we all gave our dimes in order to find a cure for polio...Everyone in our school knew someone in an iron lung inflicted with polio and as a group 'we' knew our dimes were going to help find a cure, as well as, would serve to stop the spread of Polio and educating those who like ourselves were fearful of someday finding ourselves in an iron lung...as was my child hood friend who laid for nearly two years immobile in her bedroom across the road from my own home!

KHV represents nearly the same tragedy to everyone who owns koi. Thus, whilst those who post on this board/forum profess to care about koi and about what to feed them, what type of filter to buy, who won what show, they are still sitting on their wallets instead of NOW sending their ten dollar contribution to Dale Torok in Lexington...

Personally, they don't really give a damn about koi. Obviously, the couldn't.

They care only about seeing their name on one these boards and forums and BS'ing about something far less important than showing the world how much they cared by sending their ten dollars $10.00) for the 'club' pin with One dollar each for shipping and handling - to our hard working collegue Dale Tork and then displaying their CAYMAN ISLAND KOI PIN as proud evidence of their 'caring' about this hobby, about their own fish and really caring about their fellow koi hobbyists fish.

Our fund raising is not requesting a five hundred dollar contribution, nor a thousand dollar contribution...it is only a ten ($10.00) United States dollar contribution - and, the opportunity offers a chance for us all to find the cure to the worst disease to ever hit our hobby -

With the ten dollars they get in return a Cayman Island Club pin..which cost them nothing. And, full membership in the worlds largest koi club...And, they are making a donation to what is most is relevant to their own fish.

I'd be embarassed to say that I care about my koi and I would be embarassed to ever again post my name on a forum or board, or attend a koi club meeting, or a koi show or tell anyone I had koi...IF I hadn't sent the ten bucks to Dale Torok in Lexington, Kentucky - in order that he could send that hobbyist a CAYMAN ISLAND KOI CLUB pin to place proudly upon their lapel...as evidence of their 'rightful place in our koi hobby'!

Well, that's my rant of the day to the truly phoney koi keepers who profess to care about this hobby and their koi collections!

May they all be embarassed and ashamed of themselves!

Hug's and Happy Holiday's

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well, I am soon to be a member of your club Lee. I sent my $$ to Dale earlier today for two of the 2007 and two of the 2008 pins. Not much of a donation, but every little bit helps...right? The money is for a great cause, and as a side benefit you get very attractive pins and membership into one of the koi world's most unique koi clubs.
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Indeed, it helps. That is what this fund raising effort is all about!

Thank you.

Help me find an answer..

What I don't understand, is that every dollar really does help.

Then what is it that keeps a supposed lover of koi, someone who takes the time to post or read this forum every day...choose NOT to do some thing proactive on behalf of their koi and their colleagues koi?

How embarassing to profess a love of this hobby and their koi club and how much they enjoy attending koi shows and can sit for hours watching their koi...and, withhold ten dollars which could actually help them enjoy and participate in all these events and efforts for years to come???

AsTen dollars today to those in this hobby is nothing. Thus, young lady, tell me how can anyone with hold sending their cheque - this moment to Dale in this fight we are all in together?

With my warmest affection and sincerst respect,

Your koi friend,

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Lee, I suspect that most people are like me....they mean to do thing, but put them off. I meant to buy the pins a long time ago, when the information was first posted. but then I got busy and just forgot about it. $10 is not much and I am sure everyone in this hobby can afford it....but they (like me), just put off doing it. This is indeed a very worthwhile cause. I am happy I didn't put it off this time.
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