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Old 10-16-2007   #41 (permalink)
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anyone notice anything about that sanke?? JR
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Old 10-16-2007   #42 (permalink)
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Are you refering to the shiney scales or the "black in the fins" like a showa?
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Old 10-16-2007   #43 (permalink)
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Well, I notice a bit of Marusome Kiwa on some of the Sumi... but further back on the Koi than in this pic.
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it has some "gin", doesn't look like Matsunosuke Gin to me.....

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seeing the forest thru the trees


When you fish look at a koi, the presence of the koi is the first thing to hit you. This is usually in the form of color intensity and then pattern. But as you train your eye to look past the powerful impression of color and presence you then can see the koi as a specimen.
Koi are mass produced by nature. with spawns as large as 300,000 being possible. And natures 'coping machine' is not aiming for 300,000 pefect copies. So deformities are very common- even in otherwise great koi. Do you see it yet? JR
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When you fish look at a koi, the presence of the koi is the first thing to hit you. This is usually in the form of color intensity and then pattern. But as you train your eye to look past the powerful impression of color and presence you then can see the koi as a specimen.
Koi are mass produced by nature. with spawns as large as 300,000 being possible. And natures 'coping machine' is not aiming for 300,000 pefect copies. So deformities are very common- even in otherwise great koi. Do you see it yet? JR
Yes, the pecs are uneven, the right is larger than the left.
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Bingo-- JR
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Hopefully that Sanke would fall low on the "peck"ing order in a show.

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Hopefully that Sanke would fall low on the "peck"ing order in a show.

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Isn't it amazing how much people will spend in a bidding frenzy? It seems they want so much to have something over any one else that they forget all reason and buy a deformity for too much money. Buyer beware.LOL
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Brady it is always a difficult thing to point out in a koi show. As much as I'm a big 'all about the education' type judge, it is difficult to point out flaws and defects on very expensive fish without weighing the consequences. I mean the facts NEVER leave the judging decision but the need to share defects with proud and sometimes touchy owners ( hey lady, your kid has a square head-- never is well received!) is a delicate issue. Often judges will say in passing, " if only the head were more straight" or " a shame that there is a slight bend in the spine". This is about as diplomatic as it can get.

The very most common defect found in expensive koi is typically in the eyes. Missing eye lens and frozen crystalized eyes being most common as these big fish are moved). The second most common is typically the fin sizes. Some are naturally deformed, some grow that way from a normal baby and some are trimmed fins , trimmed due top some past injury or disease.
In a perfect world, these fish do not show up at a koi show. But in our world they show up all the time as the owner, and sometimes the dealer, never see this issue until it is pointed out to them. So if the fish is allowed to compete at all, then it is marked down severely. This results in the appearence that the wrong fish won. An awkward situation.
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