Yellow Shusui?

[dick benbow]

it would be competing as a doutsu Kujacku.....but as commented....a rose by any othewr name would smell as sweet...and that's a sweet looking koi!

[dizzyfish]

Dick,
This web site calls it Ki Shusui Koi descriptions Recognizing Koi types Scroll down to the Asagi-Shusui section.
Mitch

[aquitori]

Doitsu Lemon Hariwake, the pattern looks clean and the Hikari is bright.

[karipeters]

Heaven forbid that a website would deliver wrong information...
I'll give this my best shot:

Kinsui (Koi)
C'est un Koi métallique de la famille des "HIKARIMOYO-MONO". On en trouve des jaunes, des oranges, des rouges.
Ici un jaune, que l'on pourrait aussi appeler "Doitsu Yamabuki Hariwake".
Ce sont des Kois très populaires, car ils ont un aspect "feuille d'aluminium" couleur Or remarquable


OK- Kinsui (does not mean 'Koi') FYI (errrrg!!)
This is a metalic koi from the family of "Hikarimoyo-mono".( ? )(it is) found in yellows, oranges, and reds.
Here is a yellow, that one would call "Doitsu Yamabuki Hariwake" (!!! oxymoron minus...)
These Koi are very popular, they are remarkable for their type of 'aluminum-kind' of color.

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by dizzyfish Russ, My French is lacking, but I think they are suggesting Kinsui looks similar to my fish. Click on the picture on the right. Mitch Kinsui (Koi) : sa fiche technique

OK..........it looks similiar, but..............it is still not it.

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by dizzyfish Dick, This web site calls it Ki Shusui Koi descriptions Recognizing Koi types Scroll down to the Asagi-Shusui section. Mitch

Sorry, it is not a Ki-Shusui.

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by aquitori Doitsu Lemon Hariwake, the pattern looks clean and the Hikari is bright.

No, that is not right either. Although if you look in Mitch's third picture from the left, the picture with the Kohaku in it, you can see a Doitsu Lemon Hariwake in the back ground.

[dizzyfish]

Russ,
Even Blackwater Creek is calling a yellow Shusui -------Ki Shusui Blackwater Creek: Asagi & Shusui
Sub classification is determined by the pattern of the red and blue on the body of the koi. Hi Shusui fashions hi that extends up over the back, so that the two contrasting colors are the red of the hi and dark blue of the mirror scales. These are unsubtle and quite striking koi. Hana Shusui (Hana meaning flower in Japanese) also have more red than normal, but here it is in the form of an extra band between the lateral line and dorsal fin, with a break in between. In the best examples, the hi is laid out in a wavy pattern to give a flowery effect.
In Ki Shusui, yellow replaces the red.

Although theirs is a butterfly. If you do a Google search the term Ki Shusui is used quite a bit, although I wasn't aware of it until today.
Mitch

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by dizzyfish Russ, Even Blackwater Creek is calling a yellow Shusui -------Ki Shusui Blackwater Creek: Asagi & Shusui Sub classification is determined by the pattern of the red and blue on the body of the koi. Hi Shusui fashions hi that extends up over the back, so that the two contrasting colors are the red of the hi and dark blue of the mirror scales. These are unsubtle and quite striking koi. Hana Shusui (Hana meaning flower in Japanese) also have more red than normal, but here it is in the form of an extra band between the lateral line and dorsal fin, with a break in between. In the best examples, the hi is laid out in a wavy pattern to give a flowery effect. In Ki Shusui, yellow replaces the red. Although theirs is a butterfly. If you do a Google search the term Ki Shusui is used quite a bit, although I wasn't aware of it until today. Mitch

Mitch, they are wrong. The picture they are showing of the yellow butterfly is not a Ki-Shusui. They even call a Midorigoi a Shusui-like Koi. It is not correct, but if you would like to believe it, go ahead.

[koiczar]

Mitch

First of all, shusui, be it standard, Hana or Hi Shusui, are all NON METALLIC fish. This fish IS METALLIC and therefor cannot be classified as a shusui. It also is not a Hariwake as it has reticulated scales on the back. Hariwake are a two color fish with no netted pattern to the scales. A Kujaku , in it's standard scaled form, should have a very clean netted or reticulated pattern in black/grey along the back. If it is doitsu, then the scales along the dorsal line should also be netted or reticulated. The fish you posted is definitely not a shusui nor a hariwake. Most folks would call it a Ki- Kujaku. If the Japanese have given it another name, I'm not aware of it, but will check next week while in Japan.

Mike