palm tree - any suggestion?

[koiczar]

Steve

A "shade" tree, no matter what variety is messy. Question: Do you want to clean up once a year or once a week? If the answer is yearly, then use japanese maples or something along that line. They have no flowers, very few seeds and only drop leaves once a year. Evergreens are just that, however, they constantly shed and rejuvenate throughout the year. The cleanest shade covering I know of is an overhang or pergola. No leaves, flowers, seeds to worry about - LOL

Send me a pm. Maybe I can suggest a few maples based on size that would fit your needs.

Mike

[Flounder]

How 'bout some giant non running bamboos?

The ones i have here are the clumpers, not a bit invansive and can grow to 50' high. These here are about 3 years old and 40' high, the culms are up to 5" in diameter now & get larger every year. They're fast grower and provides alot of shade from the Texas heat.

[trac]

My experience with the two types of Palm trees I have in my yard is that the roots are very dense and take all available space around it, its hell if your piping is near it to dig out.

Also, as long as you cut the seed pods early its not too bad and if you take out the fronds that are dying you won't have much falling in your pond. (providing you can reach em with a pole saw)

Only other thing is the birds that love to build nests or sit on the palms leave droppings all over the place, but I guess that would happen in any tree.

T.

[Redfrick]

Quote: Originally Posted by Flounder How 'bout some giant non running bamboos? The ones i have here are the clumpers, not a bit invansive and can grow to 50' high. These here are about 3 years old and 40' high, the culms are up to 5" in diameter now & get larger every year. They're fast grower and provides alot of shade from the Texas heat.

Nice Bamboo, how are they in hot dry climate?

Todd

[Flounder]

Quote: Originally Posted by Redfrick Nice Bamboo, how are they in hot dry climate? Todd

Not dry but humid here, more sub tropic like temps. Grows awesome.

If you are referring to: will they grow in hot dry climate? I don't think so since these require a fair amount of watering. When was the last time you saw some bamboos in the desert?

[Redfrick]

Quote: Originally Posted by Flounder Not dry but humid here, more sub tropic like temps. Grows awesome. If you are referring to: will they grow in hot dry climate? I don't think so since these require a fair amount of watering. When was the last time you saw some bamboos in the desert?

To be honest with you, I have never seen any bamboos planted in the ground, but have seen them in pots on my neighbors well shadied patio with misters on them during the day in summer.

Todd

[Steve Nguyen]

Bamboos are nice looking but once the leaves change color, they drops like crazy. I would think it's a mess for the skimmer.

I think Koiczar made some points. once a year cleaning up the leaves is not that bad. He should know since he has a gigantic maple tree near his pond.

btw, I had a few banana plants near my pond before and it looks great. it's a little messy when it's blooming. the major drawback is that it didn't do too well during a few frosty winter nights.

Steve

[Russell Peters]

[quote=Steve Nguyen

btw, I had a few banana plants near my pond before and it looks great. it's a little messy when it's blooming. the major drawback is that it didn't do too well during a few frosty winter nights.

Steve[/quote]

Hey, maybe your Koi would like bananas.

[JoeW]

Lady in our club was losing a lot of water from her pond. Some workers had trampled around her pond walking on rocks placed on the bottom so we just assumed that a rock had been pushed down into the rubber liner.

After removing the fish and draining the whole pond we discovered the leak was only midway down the wall. A root from a nearby palm tree about as big around as your little finger had punched through the liner. In this case the pond was built by someone who neglected to put carpet or some other type geo cloth beneath the liner that might have re-directed the root along the outside of the liner. We fixed the leak and placed what carpet we could behind the liner in the area of the pond roots, however, I feel certain that this problem will reappear in the future.

I have also had experience too with the runner type bamboo coming through the rubber liner. Believe me you don't want to go there! It is easy to identify a runner as most often you will feel a vertical groove on the cane whereas clumpers are smooth.
joe

[Steve Nguyen]

Joe,

good points on the roots punctures. I heard bamboos are worst because of its invasive young plants and roots.

This prompts me for another question. For liner pond, is it better to built a retaining wall around the pond or just use old carpet is good enough? how deep of the pond would there be a need for a retaining wall? I am more concern with the dirt on the edge collapses after the filled the pond with water. would 4 ft deep need a retaining walls? I think retaining walls of cinder blocks will prevent the roots from puncturing the liner but not sure if 4ft deep pond needs it.

Steve

Quote: Originally Posted by JoeW Lady in our club was losing a lot of water from her pond. Some workers had trampled around her pond walking on rocks placed on the bottom so we just assumed that a rock had been pushed down into the rubber liner. After removing the fish and draining the whole pond we discovered the leak was only midway down the wall. A root from a nearby palm tree about as big around as your little finger had punched through the liner. In this case the pond was built by someone who neglected to put carpet or some other type geo cloth beneath the liner that might have re-directed the root along the outside of the liner. We fixed the leak and placed what carpet we could behind the liner in the area of the pond roots, however, I feel certain that this problem will reappear in the future. I have also had experience too with the runner type bamboo coming through the rubber liner. Believe me you don't want to go there! It is easy to identify a runner as most often you will feel a vertical groove on the cane whereas clumpers are smooth. joe