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Old 11-21-2007   #11 (permalink)
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This pond reminds me of my father-in-law's pond. His pond is about 1800 gallons and he has about 25 koi ranging from 8" to 26". It is a very beautifully-lanscaped pond with bonsai everywhere. Depth ranges from about 18" (yes, 18"!!) deep to about 3 feet deep.

Believe it or not, filtration consists of water flowing from the top of the pond (no bottom drain) down a waterfall and into a 150 gallon livestock watering tank that consists of just J-mats (no settling chamber or mechanical filtration; I have been his son-in-law for 3 years now and never once have I seen him clean the filter). The only aeration is the water falling about a foot into the filter tank. The water is then pumped from the bottom of the filter tank via a 1-hp Sequence pump and returned to the pond via a waterfall (turnover has to be at least 2 to 3 times per hour!). He also uses a 40-watt Aqua UV. He does not own any medications, no ORP or salinity or pH or GH or KH or ammonia/nitrite/nitrate meters/kits.

The pond is sloped and the deepest part has a 2" drain with 2" flexible pvc pipe that leads to his garden. Twice a week he opens a valve at the end of the PVC pipe, collects about 20 gal of the dirty water, and uses it to water his bonsai. The autorefill then replaces the lost water. This means he only changes 40 gallons' worth of water every week and yet his water is crystal clear and his koi feed like there's no tomorrow. The sad part to all this is I have 14 koi ranging from 10" to 24" and yet his koi seem to grow faster than mine.

Lessons I learned: (1) good husbandry is one of the commandments of koi keeping; (2) you can't beat old men with experience; (3) there's definitely more than one way to keep koi.

My goodness x 2...another miracle, this only happen to my other fish but not koi...but I still believed it...any thing is possible to certain extend only. The koi must have undergone sometime and stronger the immune system well to survive in this kind of ecosystem. Stop thinking of the commercial way of keeping koi and lets go back to nature..
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Hi Lam,

you got me there. I meant to say "less than 10%".

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Hi Steve, if I am not mistaken, the 150 gals of filtration is about 8% of the total pond volume (1,800 gal). And thanks for taking my words for it but I hope to have pictures soon to show you. Amazing, isn't it? I still scratch my head when I come over and have tea in his backyard.
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Someone I know in Osaka has a pond, duno the size or depth for a long long time. Ok, the family has a pond for a lonog long time. The oldest koi in that pond are 40yr old +-. When I told them about water change and stuff, the answer was, in Japanese, "water change ? why do you do that ?"

BTW, this Osaka is that Osaka. there is no Osaka in the USA.

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those are call "mystery" ponds...

this one belongs to my friend.

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How I wish if raring koi can be as simple as that, with less maintenance work...I think more hobbyists will be introduced and koi market will definately great in demand. Dealers...wake-up..."big market to tap in", right!

This is gonna to be interesting
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I think it may have something to do with the filtration or maybe its the filtration or the filtration..........and the water changes
what filtration ? all i see is a bead and a bubble bead filter? is that what you call those figure 8 looking filter?
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what filtration ? all i see is a bead and a bubble bead filter? is that what you call those figure 8 looking filter?
Yes, maybe the bubble is sand.................but what ever it is, it's working to a degree.
Must back wash every day...............
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What would happen if there's a power failure?
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Yes, maybe the bubble is sand.................but what ever it is, it's working to a degree.
Must back wash every day...............
Its an old bubble bead filter with beads in it. His two filters combine for 11k worth of filtration based on their specs. They easily handle the load.
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What would happen if there's a power failure?
He plugs in his generator and fires the pond back up. He has city water so the water supply is not affected by power so he can do immediate water changes.
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