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Old 12-11-2007   #11 (permalink)
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Russell: Why do you prefer Pro-Oxine? ...I have a definite bias against PP, but accept the notion that it is effective against trichodina where other chemicals fail.
I prefer Pro-Oxine because, with a meter I have, you can determine the precise dosage specifically for what is ailing your Koi. I can also use it to sterilize an empty system and it leaves no residue like PP does. It is a clear product.
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Russ . . .

Is this the product you're talking about?


CHEMICAL PROFILES|Product Profile</B> Product: PROOXINE
EPA Registration Number: 00980400009

This pesticide is used as a:
  • DISINFECTANT
  • MICROBICIDE/MICROBISTAT
  • SANITIZER
This pesticide is registered for unrestricted use. This pesticide's toxicity code is 3, which corresponds to a toxicity category of Caution.
Active Ingredients in this ProductPercentage by MassCHLORINE DIOXIDE5%

If so, here's the link to the PAN Pesticides Database:

PAN Product Info for Prooxine
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Russ . . .

Is this the product you're talking about?


CHEMICAL PROFILES|Product Profile</B> Product: PROOXINE
EPA Registration Number: 00980400009

This pesticide is used as a:
  • DISINFECTANT
  • MICROBICIDE/MICROBISTAT
  • SANITIZER
This pesticide is registered for unrestricted use. This pesticide's toxicity code is 3, which corresponds to a toxicity category of Caution.
Active Ingredients in this ProductPercentage by MassCHLORINE DIOXIDE5%

If so, here's the link to the PAN Pesticides Database:

PAN Product Info for Prooxine
No, that is not it specifically, but I don't know for sure. I first discovered the product in Japan. Mr. Sakai uses it when he transports his Koi by truck from Niigata to Isawa. He also uses it with OTC to get rid of bacterial gill infections. I asked Miwa about sending it over to the US and she said it is made in Oklahoma. The company is Bio-Cide International and it is Chlorine Dioxide 5%.(The active ingredient is the same) They make it for food processing plants, bottling plants and industrial use. It comes with citric acid activator crystals. You mix the two together and then apply at whatever dose you need. For Koi transport it is 50 - 100mls per ton of water. For treating gill disease it is 200 - 300 mils per ton and for total sterilization it is 1000 mils per ton or higher.



P.S. Algaefix is registered with the FDA as a pesticide.

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Chlorine dioxide:

Chlorine dioxide is used primarily (>95%) for bleaching of wood pulp, but is also used for the bleaching of flour and for the disinfection of water. The Niagara Falls, New York water treatment plant first used chlorine dioxide for drinking water treatment in 1944 for phenol destruction. Chlorine dioxide was introduced as a drinking water disinfectant on a large scale in 1956, when Brussels, Belgium, changed from chlorine to chlorine dioxide. Its most common use in water treatment is as a pre-oxidant prior to chlorination of drinking water to reduce trihalomethanes which are a carcinogenic disinfection by-product associated with chlorination of naturally occurring organics in the raw water. Chlorine dioxide is also used in conjunction with ozone disinfection of water to reduce the formation of bromates which are regulated carcinogens. Chlorine dioxide is also superior to chlorine when operating above neutral pH, when ammonia is present and for the control of biofilms. Chlorine dioxide is used in many industrial water treatment applications as a biocide including cooling towers, process water and food processing. Chlorine dioxide is less corrosive than chlorine and superior for the control of legionella bacteria.
It is more effective than chlorine against viruses, bacteria and protozoa – including the cysts of Giardia and the oocysts of Cryptosporidium.
It can also be used for air disinfection, and was the principal agent used in the decontamination of buildings in the United States after the 2001 anthrax attacks. Recently, after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, Louisiana and the surrounding Gulf Coast, chlorine dioxide has been used to eradicate dangerous mold from houses inundated by water from massive flooding.

Chlorine dioxide is used as an oxidant for phenol destruction in waste water streams, control of zebra mussels in water intakes and for odor control in the air scrubbers of animal byproduct (rendering) plants.
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And you think PP is scarey???
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Chlorine dioxide is used primarily (>95%) for bleaching of wood pulp, but is also used for the bleaching of flour and for the disinfection of water. The Niagara Falls, New York water treatment plant first used chlorine dioxide for drinking water treatment in 1944 for phenol destruction. Chlorine dioxide was introduced as a drinking water disinfectant on a large scale in 1956, when Brussels, Belgium, changed from chlorine to chlorine dioxide. Its most common use in water treatment is as a pre-oxidant prior to chlorination of drinking water to reduce trihalomethanes which are a carcinogenic disinfection by-product associated with chlorination of naturally occurring organics in the raw water. Chlorine dioxide is also used in conjunction with ozone disinfection of water to reduce the formation of bromates which are regulated carcinogens. Chlorine dioxide is also superior to chlorine when operating above neutral pH, when ammonia is present and for the control of biofilms. Chlorine dioxide is used in many industrial water treatment applications as a biocide including cooling towers, process water and food processing. Chlorine dioxide is less corrosive than chlorine and superior for the control of legionella bacteria.
It is more effective than chlorine against viruses, bacteria and protozoa – including the cysts of Giardia and the oocysts of Cryptosporidium.
It can also be used for air disinfection, and was the principal agent used in the decontamination of buildings in the United States after the 2001 anthrax attacks. Recently, after the disaster of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, Louisiana and the surrounding Gulf Coast, chlorine dioxide has been used to eradicate dangerous mold from houses inundated by water from massive flooding.

Chlorine dioxide is used as an oxidant for phenol destruction in waste water streams, control of zebra mussels in water intakes and for odor control in the air scrubbers of animal byproduct (rendering) plants.
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And you think PP is scarey???
Yes, it is very easy to dose with the proper meter. It doesn't seem to oxidize Koi flesh and gills like PP does.
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