Kohaku Babies

[Tosai_Sunny]

Following the old saying..."you start with kohakus and you will end up with kohakus" or something like that. I am starting with kohaku. These tosais are the fruits of my labor from my first kohaku spawning venture this past Spring. Unfortunately, I only had room to raise about 300 babies from the spawn so I was forced to give away the rest. I used my 5-year-old Maruyama female with two unknown kohaku males. With my limitted knowledge on selecting tosais, I have chosen the top three fish for our discussion. Can I get some feedback on these three tosais? Please be as critical as possible because I am here to learn. They are about 4"-5" long at 7 months old. A little small for their age? How big should tosais at this age be if they were raised in a more ideal condition?

Here are some of the topics that I would like to be enlightened with these three tosais:
1. Shape/Conformation?
2. Beni quality?
3. Kiwa/sashi quality?
4. Shiroji quality?
5. Six-step(Roku-dan?) tosai - there is a pinkish spot on its forehead. About 10% of the spawn have this condition. It looks like undeveloped skull bone. What is that? Will that area solidify with age. If so, when?
6. Nidan tosai - Also has a patch of "bleeding" hi on its right side about the mid section near dorsal fin. Will that patch improve as it mutures.
7. There are some other babies with decent patterns, but they are only about half the size of these three. Will they catch up with their larger siblings later in life giving the same raising conditions? Or are they just genetically inferior and not worth keeping?






Thanks in advance!
Sunny

[Flounder]

I think the best one is the one w/ the big red "X" on it.

[cppond]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tosai_Sunny Following the old saying..."you start with kohakus and you will end up with kohakus" or something like that. I am starting with kohaku. These tosais are the fruits of my labor from my first kohaku spawning venture this past Spring. Unfortunately, I only had room to raise about 300 babies from the spawn so I was forced to give away the rest. I used my 5-year-old Maruyama female with two unknown kohaku males. With my limitted knowledge on selecting tosais, I have chosen the top three fish for our discussion. Can I get some feedback on these three tosais? Please be as critical as possible because I am here to learn. They are about 4"-5" long at 7 months old. A little small for their age? How big should tosais at this age be if they were raised in a more ideal condition? Here are some of the topics that I would like to be enlightened with these three tosais: 1. Shape/Conformation? 2. Beni quality? 3. Kiwa/sashi quality? 4. Shiroji quality? 5. Six-step(Roku-dan?) tosai - there is a pinkish spot on its forehead. About 10% of the spawn have this condition. It looks like undeveloped skull bone. What is that? Will that area solidify with age. If so, when? 6. Nidan tosai - Also has a patch of "bleeding" hi on its right side about the mid section near dorsal fin. Will that patch improve as it mutures. 7. There are some other babies with decent patterns, but they are only about half the size of these three. Will they catch up with their larger siblings later in life giving the same raising conditions? Or are they just genetically inferior and not worth keeping? Thanks in advance! Sunny

Sunny

I can't see any pics.

[dick benbow]

Most breeders i know take 5 years to follow a new pair's spawning before they feel they have a handle on what to expect, so allow some time to pass
and see how they do by experiencing their growth and changes.

[Russell Peters]

...........Can I have one of each?

[RookieKoiGuy]

I dont see the pics....
Maybe if you get them you can post for us Russell.

Tom

[Tosai_Sunny]

I guess I am the only who can see the pictures! Can someone please help out?

Thanks,
sunny

[azngopher]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tosai_Sunny I guess I am the only who can see the pictures! Can someone please help out? Thanks, sunny

Here ya go. The 6 step is my favorite for now but I think the 4 step has the best potential if the steps get some separation.

Looking forward to see these guys in person.

Duc

[koibooi]

Now normally it is difficult to judge a koi by a picture. Judging small koi on a picture is even more difficult, but if you can not even see the pictures, then you are asking for the impossible.

[Tosai_Sunny]

Thanks Duc! You have to show me you did that.

Best Regards,
Sunny