Info on Kojiro Migita

[pbng]

Hi Folks,

I've purchase one of his fish early this year, and the fish is doing well.
I only know that he was a ex-worker in Sakai (Hiroshima).

I would like to find out more about this new breeder.

Anyone has his info?
What is his strength in term of fish type, like sanke? or kohaku, or showa?
Anyone visited his farm this year and any info on his tosai/nisai?

here is the pic of my fish.
May and Jul 07.

[Brian]

I've seen him around at Sakai's place quite a number of times and had the pleasure of going out with him one night after the All-Japan two years ago. His sanke and kohaku are quite well received here, with the local dealers buying and promoting quite heavily. His farm is in Kyushu, but I believe that it is owned by someone else and he is managing and operating it for him. A Mr. Takefuji, I believe? Let me check on that though before you hold me to it.

Didn't get to speak with him that much unfortunately as he had drunk himself under the table and passed out. He's quite renowned for his ability to imbibe a certain type of Chinese liqueur that's taste a bit too medicine-like for my tastes.

[Brian]

I've attached a photo that I took of Mr. Migita back in 2005 for your reference.

[Super Kindai]

Quote: Originally Posted by pbng Hi Folks, I've purchase one of his fish early this year, and the fish is doing well. I only know that he was a ex-worker in Sakai (Hiroshima). I would like to find out more about this new breeder. Anyone has his info? What is his strength in term of fish type, like sanke? or kohaku, or showa? Anyone visited his farm this year and any info on his tosai/nisai? here is the pic of my fish. May and Jul 07.

Here is your Sanke's parents, the female nickname as " Kintaro"....

After15 years at Sakai (H), he had moved to Muto Yourijyo at kumamoto in Kyusyu(his home town) by 2002 and helped Mr. muto for his breeding with Sakai bloodline parents. the resoult were great.

Last spring, he has officially opened his own Migita Yourijyo at Tochigi.
Yes, he has top eyes & the top breeding skills....only God knows result. Good luck.

[Eugeneg]

[quote=Super Kindai;98250]Here is your Sanke's parents, the female nickname as " Kintaro"....

After15 years at Sakai (H), he had moved to Muto Yourijyo at kumamoto in Kyusyu(his home town) by 2002 and helped Mr. muto for his breeding with Sakai bloodline parents. the resoult were great.

What surprises me is how small some of the parent male fish are while the females are over 90 cm size . I thought that useing larger males would help in fish size . May be somone could explain this for me
Regards
Eugene

[Super Kindai]

[quote=Eugeneg;98251]

Quote: Originally Posted by Super Kindai Here is your Sanke's parents, the female nickname as " Kintaro".... After15 years at Sakai (H), he had moved to Muto Yourijyo at kumamoto in Kyusyu(his home town) by 2002 and helped Mr. muto for his breeding with Sakai bloodline parents. the resoult were great. What surprises me is how small some of the parent male fish are while the females are over 90 cm size . I thought that useing larger males would help in fish size . May be somone could explain this for me Regards Eugene

Maybe because a younger fresh male often "work" more better than an old big but a little tired male.....
Also, I hear/read that a body of female and a quality of male tend to transfer to their children as a general idea of breeding.

[pbng]

Quote: Originally Posted by Super Kindai Here is your Sanke's parents, the female nickname as " Kintaro"....

Hi....interesting to see the parent.

btw, how do you know the parent of this fish? Have you seen this fish (my) elsewhere before? In the certificate, it only mentioned Mother is from Momotaro, and Father from Muto.

I didn't manage to find any website on them....can share where you get the information of their bloodline and pic?

Another point for discussion is that my fish has very strong and big sumi patch at the back which is not seen in the parent....???

[dick benbow]

I think if you look at the male closely, you will see that it is not finished and there is actually quite a bit of black there. Also the fins carry black on the male which is a sign of healthy availability. parents are not chosen because of pattern but because of quality, so what you see is not necessarily what you'll get. How many National Champions have been bred with perfect patterns only to have the children fall short of the mark. Most breeders
take a five year learning curve to really understand if a parent "clicks".

I think the photo itself is deceiving as the female parent is featured with a larger position yet if you look at the male it is only small in it's relative size
of the photo, not the actual koi size relative to his mate. Most consumers realize they want females, so why wouldn't you play that up as "exceptionally" large

[Super Kindai]

Quote: Originally Posted by pbng Hi....interesting to see the parent. btw, how do you know the parent of this fish? Have you seen this fish (my) elsewhere before? In the certificate, it only mentioned Mother is from Momotaro, and Father from Muto. I didn't manage to find any website on them....can share where you get the information of their bloodline and pic? Another point for discussion is that my fish has very strong and big sumi patch at the back which is not seen in the parent....???

It is nothing special because I have been subscribing Japanese monthly koi magazines such as Nichirin, Rinko and Gettkan Nishikigoi. there are lots of articles/reports/pictures about him/his kois, facility, idea, goal, etc in it so that basically I can have some basic information from those magazines.

Regarding to sumi, yes, it is "biological inheritance" but not "Dominance relationship" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_allele
and also "Atavism" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atavism is commonly known by breeders.

For Gosanke breeding, less than 1% of all hatched babies would be kept as tosai by high-end breeders (Sanke breeding is accually much harder than Kohaku's)....nearly 100% of babies are not look like their parents by its quality, body and pattern, etc.
So, it maybe a matter of luck plus breeder's sense with cull technique...

[dick benbow]

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