Best breeders for Tosai shopping in Niagata

[Erns]

Ok, so if you could buy tosai in Niagata who would you go to for the following. I've put down who I think is ok but please give some more ideas.

Asagi: Otsuka/Hosokai
Showa: Ueno/Tosio Sakai for new type sumi
Aigoromo: ?
Shiro: Keneko/Yengeni
Yamabuki: ?
Kujaku: Kaneko
Gin Rin Ochiba:?
Doits Kigoi:?

[dick benbow]

Hosokai has done a good job of coming up with unique koi like your kigoi request as has otsuka

I'm a big fan of Toshio, so all the rest, I'd be looking there especially with goromo.

[aquitori]

I think all breeders produce good tosai, it a matter of what price you get them at and the future potential. Anyways, it seems most breeders nowadays share tosai to make up for what they cant produce well.

[koiczar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Erns Ok, so if you could buy tosai in Niagata who would you go to for the following. I've put down who I think is ok but please give some more ideas. Asagi: Otsuka/Hosokai Showa: Ueno/Tosio Sakai for new type sumi Aigoromo: ? Shiro: Keneko/Yengeni Yamabuki: ? Kujaku: Kaneko Gin Rin Ochiba:? Doits Kigoi:?

Erns

Here are changes to your above list:

Asagi: HOSOKAI, then Otsuka. I've heard Otsuka uses Hosokai bloodline for his breeding.
Showa - Torazo, Dainichi,Hiroi,Marudo,Sekiguchi, Seijuro,Yagengi
Aigoromo - Marusei
Yamabuki - Izumiya
Kujaku - Kaneko, Hosokai
Gin Rin Ochiba - Hiroi, Marusei
Doitsu Kigoi - Jurosuke, Hiroi, Hosokai

Toshio Sakai is located in Isawa, not Niigata. His brother Toshiyuke is there however at Yamamatsu Koi Farm. Many nice Gosanke and some Kawari.

When are going? This makes a difference as some breeders don't release their tosai for sale until March or later.

Mike

[Russell Peters]

Erns,

If you changed your list to include more of Japan, this would be my choice;

Asagi - Hosokai
Showa - Toshio Sakai
Ai Goromo - Toshio Sakai
Yamabuki - Yagozen, Izumiya
Kujaku - Kaneko, Hosokai
Shiro - Omosako, Yagenji
Gun Rin Ochiba - Hiroi
Doitsu Kigoi - Jirosuke

[KoiCop]

Hello Erns . . .

Another approach would be to buy the 2 Volume set:

Koi by Harald Bachmann.

It's a serious work with a serious price tag for serious hobbyists.

IMHO, the sections breaking out breeders by region by variety by quality elevate the set to required reading status for someone in your position.

[dick benbow]

The point I was trying to make is that the man has more than Gosanke. I agree the store front is not in Niigata, but lots of his operations are there,

[Super Kindai]

Asagi: Otsuka
Showa: Dainichi/Suzusei(Seijyuro)/Sekigichi/ Otozo (too many good breeders ♪)
Aigoromo: Sakazume
Shiro: Marudo
Yamabuki: Izumiya, (Purachina :Yamacho)
Kujaku: Kaneko
Gin Rin Ochiba: ???
Doits Kigoi: ???

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by dick benbow The point I was trying to make is that the man has more than Gosanke. I agree the store front is not in Niigata, but lots of his operations are there,

A lot of his Koi live in the Niigata area for about half the year.

[aquitori]

The best place to get everything would be, either Sakai Hiroshima and Ogata'er...they seem to have everything one can think of...