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Old 01-24-2008   #21 (permalink)
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[quote=KoiCop;102594]Sorry, but I'm not familiar with that specific product, Eugene -- or with what claims it might be making or why Maeda-san adds it?
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Takazumi Miracle Animal 200 ml
Takazumi Miracle Animal 200 ml
EUR 34,95
$ 34.95
Art.Nr.: 715000
No.: 715000
incl. 20 % UST exkl.
Including 20% VAT excl Versandkosten
Artikeldatenblatt drucken
Product data sheet
Lieferzeit:ca.
Delivery time: about
3-5 Tage
3-5 days

Takazumi Miracle Animal 200 ml
Takazumi Miracle Animal 200 ml
Milchsäurebakterien mit fermentierten Pflanzenextrakten zur Vorbeugung gegen Lochkrankheiten, Flossenfäule, Kiemenfäule und KHV.
Lactic acid bacteria with fermented plant for the prevention of diseases hole, Flossenfäule, Kiemenfäule and KHV.
Miracle Animal bewirkt nicht nur eine optimale Abwehrfähigkeit gegen diese Krankheiten .
Miracle Animal causes not only the best defensive capability against these diseases.
Tests haben erwiesen, dass auch bei bereits erkrankten Fischen eine heilende Wirkung erzielt wird.
Tests have shown that even in an already diseased fish healing effect.
Hinweis:
Note:
Wir weisen extra darauf hin:
We have extra pointed out:
Milchsäurebakterien sind kein Impfstoff gegen KHV .
Lactic acid bacteria are not a vaccine against KHV.
Miracle Animal ist jedoch ein Produkt, welches Ihren Koi zu einem absolut starken Immunsystem verhilft um die allerschlimmsten Krankheiten erfolgreich abzuwehren.
Miracle Animal is a product that your Koi an absolutely strong immune system helps to vse successfully fend off diseases.
Anwendung:
Application:
100 g Futter mit dem beigelegtem Messbecher
100 g of feed with the beigelegtem measuring cup
(100 ml = 50 g) abwiegen und in eine nicht zu kleine Schale füllen.
(100 ml = 50 g) Dissolve and in a small bowl to fill.
3 ml Miracle Animal mit dem Messbecher abmessen und in 8 ml Trinkwasser auflösen.
3 ml Miracle Animal with the measuring cup sizes and 8 ml of water dissolve.
Das Futter mit dieser Flüssigkeit besprengen und so lange mischen, bis alle Futterkörner feucht sind.
The lining of this fluid spraying and as long mix until all feed grains are wet.
Das Futter trocknen lassen und danach Ihren Koi verfüttern.
The dry feed, and then your Koi verfüttern.
Wichtig:
Important:
Halten Sie immer die vorgeschriebene Dosierung ein!
Do you always have the prescribed dosage!
Messbecher und Schalen nach Gebrauch immer gut reinigen!
Measuring cups and bowls after use always good clean!
Kühl und trocken lagern.
Cool and dry place.
Inhaltsstoffe:
Ingredients:
Fermentierte Pflanzenextrakte
Fermented plant extracts
Brauner Zucker, Soja Bohnen (genetisch unverändert), Zwetschgen, Mandarinen, Erdbeeren, Zitronen, Beifuß, Nigerooligosaccharide, Apfel, iyo-Orange, Kiwi, Schachtelhalm, Grünkohl, Reiskleie, Brokkoli, Brassica Rapa, Akibi, Gerste, Gelbwurz, Shiitake Pilze, Grifolia frondosa, Kombu (Seetang), Honig, Artubus, Kumquat, Tossa Jute, Lycium barbarum (Wolfberry) , Kakaobohnen, Sellerie, japanischer Bergginseng, Agaricus Brazei Muril, Auricularia auricula-judae (Judasohr), Lucid Ganoderma, Kombu Wurzel, Hijiki (Seegras), Wakame (Alge), Zitrone, Traube, Blaubeere, Himbeere, Blackberry, Goumi (Eleagnus multifloral), Weinrebe, Perilla (Schwarznessel), Petersilie, Löwenzahn, Karotten, Mispel, japanischer Ingwer, Große Klette, indischer Lotus, Gemüsespargel, Piment, Aubergine, jaoanische Radischen, Mitsuba, Balsambirne, japanische Petersilie, Kohl, japanische Aprikosen, chinesische Quitte, Jujube (chin. Dattel), japanische Pflaumen, Mallotus japonicus, Zwiebeln, Gurke, Tomaten, Knoblauch, Ingwer
Brown sugar, soya beans (genetically unchanged), plums, tangerines, strawberries, lemons, mugwort, Nigerooligosaccharide, apple, orange-iyo, kiwi, horsetail, green cabbage, Reiskleie, broccoli, Brassica Rapa, Akibi, barley, turmeric, shiitake mushrooms, Grifolia frondosa, Kombu (kelp), honey, Artubus, Kumquat, Tossa jute, Lycium barbarum (Wolf Berry), cocoa beans, celery, Japanese mountain ginseng, Agaricus Brazei Muril, Auricularia auricula-judae (Judasohr), Lucid Ganoderma, Kombu root, Hijiki ( seaweed), Wakame (seaweed), lemon, grape, blueberry, raspberry, blackberry, Goumi (Eleagnus multifloral), vine, Perilla (Schwarznessel), parsley, dandelion, carrots, medlar, Japanese ginger, big burdock, Indian lotus, vegetables, asparagus, allspice, eggplant, jaoanische Radischen, Mitsuba, balsam pear, Japanese parsley, cabbage, Japanese apricot, Chinese quince, Jujube (Chinese date), Japanese plums, Mallotus japonicus, onions, cucumber, tomatoes, garlic, ginger
Vitamine
Vitamins
Vitamin B1, Vitamin B2, Vitamin B6, Calcium Pantothenate
Vitamin B1, vitamin B2, vitamin B6, Calcium Pantothenate
Natürlich abgeleitete Pflanzen
Naturally derived plants
Gelbwurz, Perilla, Blaubeere, Zwetschgen, Lycium barbarum, Persimone, Akebi, Himbeere, Goumi
Turmeric, Perilla, blue berry, plums, Lycium barbarum, Persimone, Akebi, raspberry, Goumi
Seepflanzen
Seepflanzen
Seetang Wurzeln, Hijiki, Riesentang, Fuces
Seaweed roots, Hijiki, Giant Tang, Fuces
Pilze
Fungi
Shiitake Pilze, Grifolia frondosa, Agaricus Brazai, Muril, etc.
Shiitake mushrooms, Grifolia frondosa, Agaricus Brazai, Muril, etc.
Daten:
Data:
Inhalt : 200 ml
Contents: 200 ml
Inkl.
Incl.
Messbecher: 8 ml, 125 ml
Scoop: 8 ml, 125 ml
Inhalt reicht für 6,6 kg Futter
Content ranges for 6.6 kg feed

Krankheitsbehandlung für Koi
Disease treatment for Koi
Bei allen Mitteln ist Vorsicht bei der Anwendung geboten.
For all means caution is warranted in the application.
Bei unsachgemäßer Handhabung können schwere gesundheitliche Schäden verursacht werden.
In the case of improper handling may lead to serious health damage.
Allgemeine Empfehlungen:
General recommendations:
Fischkrankheiten sind ohne genauer Untersuchung nur sehr schwer zu erkennen . Zur genauen Bestimmung der Krankheitsursache sollte daher vor der Anwendung eines Medikaments unbedingt ein Fisch- oder Koiarzt hinzugezogen werden.
Fish diseases are no precise investigation will be very difficult to recognize. Order to determine the exact cause of illness should be before the application of a drug to a fish-or Koiarzt added.
Vor und während der Behandlung sollten die Wasserbedingungen (speziell ph-Wert, Nitrit und Ammoniak) überprüft werden.
Before and during treatment, the water conditions (particularly pH, nitrite and ammonia) reviewed.
Behandlungsmittel können das Sauerstoffniveau reduzieren.
Treatment resources can reduce oxygen levels.
Deshalb sollte die Behandlung nur durchgeführt werden, wenn viel Zeit zur Verfügung steht, damit die Wasserparameter regelmäßig kontrolliert und die Fische beobachtet werden können.
Therefore, treatment should only be carried out if a lot of time is available, so that the water parameters regularly inspected and the fish can be observed.
Allgemeine Hinweise:
General notes:
UVC-Geräte während der Behandlung mit Medikamenten und auch einige Tage länger unbedingt ausschalten.
UVC devices during treatment with medication and some days longer necessarily off.
Nie mehr als ein Behandlungsmittel auf einmal einsetzen, oder das nur unter tierärztlicher Aufsicht.
No more than one treatment agent at once, or only under veterinary supervision.
10 Tage zwischen den Behandlungen mit einem anderen Medikament warten.
10 days between the treatment with another drug wait.
Wenn eine Behandlung wiederholt oder verändert werden soll, muss immer ein Teilwasserwechsel durchgeführt werden.
If a treatment or changed repeatedly, it must always be a part of water changes implemented.
Für Kinder unzugänglich aufzubewahren!
For children kept!
Bitte beachten Sie die Anwendungshinweise auf der Verpackung.
Please note the instructions on the package.
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Old 01-24-2008   #22 (permalink)
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portland, and the pond will freeze for 1 week a year usaully.

you guys use "this is a serious koi hobbie site" like you are gay. It's like if i went on some site and talked about chicks but there was all these gay dudes going this is a seriousely gay site!

I am a serious koi hobbiest, or learning to be. but, i will never be saying hey this site is for serious hobbiest because thats just.... Am i going to get kicked off for abuse now? I don't no the limits of this forums tolerance.

this message is ment to be a lol, message.
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Old 01-24-2008   #23 (permalink)
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portland, and the pond will freeze for 1 week a year usaully.

you guys use "this is a serious koi hobbie site" like you are gay. It's like if i went on some site and talked about chicks but there was all these gay dudes going this is a seriousely gay site!

I am a serious koi hobbiest, or learning to be. but, i will never be saying hey this site is for serious hobbiest because thats just.... Am i going to get kicked off for abuse now? I don't no the limits of this forums tolerance.

this message is ment to be a lol, message.
Go for it Don...........
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to tell you the truth Nancy, this is one of those times I agree.

sic em...
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Coundn't agree more with Nancy and Mike. NFM...
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oh and mike, i own your town. i am a smith.

lol, to all.

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i am going backwards

i never used "bugs" and now i am. i am aways worried if i could do more. i am a serious reverse hobbiest.
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Old 01-24-2008   #28 (permalink)
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Eugene . . .

It says: 'Miracle Animal is a product that your Koi an absolutely strong immune system helps to vse successfully fend off diseases.'

Beyond that, you're a better man than me if you can make any sense out of the claims made and ingredients listed.
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i went to the microbe makers site

they don't answer the question either. so of course you guys wouldn't know.

they say on there site like they advertise that the "bugs" are alive. So there not dead like someone sugested.

is this product bad to use???? whatever, no need to answer i already bought it i will use it. unless someone claims that it is bad for the fish.
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How about addng something like ultimate during the winter months when the filters have trouble keeping up with the ammonia? Or is this another myth I keep reading? Mike
Another good question, Mike, and one that Mother Nature had provided a solution for.

Ammonia (very harmful) and Ammonium (not nearly as harmful) exist in a ratio that shifts based on pH and temperature.

At lower pH, and at lower temperatures, the relationship shifts to a higher percentage of the safer ammonium and less of the more dangerous ammonia -- thereby protecting your fish when the bio-bugs are down. No binder should be necessary unless there's something like dead fish or large amounts of decaying plant/algae material in your pond, in which case getting rid of the cause is the best solution.

Anyway, that's my layman's explanation. Someone with a solid grounding in chemistry (like Roark, Roddy or Rick F) would do a much better job of explaining this, I'm sure.
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