Q about Ogata...are they a breeder or a growout facility?...

[aquitori]

Quote: Originally Posted by 111whalen You guys are reminding me. Are there any confirmed outbreaks of KHV in the states in the last 6 months? I know this can be tricky to talk about but I believe honesty will help all koi people in the long run.

There have been outbreaks among hobbyist, but as far as dealers go it was probably swepted under the rug.

[moikoi]

Quote: Originally Posted by aquitori They are both, that's why when you got to Ogata you need not look anywhere else because they have every variety there. They do buy fry's from other breeders to make up for what they don't breed.

do they market these as Ogata bred? how can they keep track where all these fry's come from one mud pond for each breeder that they buy from?

[aquitori]

Quote: Originally Posted by moikoi do they market these as Ogata bred? how can they keep track where all these fry's come from one mud pond for each breeder that they buy from?

Of course they do, as well as other breeders do...it is a known fact in the industry....Ogata buys fry from breeders who are known for a certain variety. That's how he can keep track.