kodama and ebay fish.

[jomoma]

how do you insert an image with this url thing. There is a heisei nishiki on kodama that is valued at 1500.00 and has a bid for 460.00 but i saw a heisei nishiki with the almost same pattern not sell last night on ebay for a bid of 30.00. very unusual patten that i wanted to show you guys. Crazy price differnts. This is not like a kohaku on kodama against one on ebay. but, i can't post the pics.

[dinh]

Quote: Originally Posted by jomoma how do you insert an image with this url thing. There is a heisei nishiki on kodama that is valued at 1500.00 and has a bid for 460.00 but i saw a heisei nishiki with the almost same pattern not sell last night on ebay for a bid of 30.00. very unusual patten that i wanted to show you guys. Crazy price differnts. This is not like a kohaku on kodama against one on ebay. but, i can't post the pics.

http://www.kodamakoifarm.com/images_...11708A_008.jpg

[aquitori]

Quote: Originally Posted by dinh http://www.kodamakoifarm.com/images_...11708A_008.jpg

Looks like Doitsu GinRin Kigoi...

[jomoma]

ok here they are. one didn't sell for 30.00 and one is going to sell for atleast 460.00.
I would take the ebay one for that price. sorry kodama purchaser if you read this.

oh the upload failed. ah forget it.

The ebay koi is just like the kodama. the hi in the middle and two sumi marks that look like they have been put on by a marker and even the hi circle next to the black marks are the same. the head is also alike. - but it didn't sell for 30.00

[JasPR]

yep, I spoke to Toshio Sakai for confirmation, it's a kigoi all right, it's a metallic sanke kigoi. Or a chevy------- JR

[jomoma]

The breeder from japan must not no what he's selling. because kodama and the dealer on ebay list the koi as a Heisei Nishiki. I doubt they would come to this conclusion seperatly unless they were told it was a heisei nishiki by the breeder.

To me it looks like the two koi come from the same bloodline. there almost twins.

[JasPR]

I was just teasing, bud.
But since we are on the subject of varieties and I can't possibly talk about kigoi anymore--- I honestly can't see much of a difference between yamato nishiki and Heisei nishiki ? I know the breeders were under a lot of pressure to come up with a new variety for the new era, but I'm just not sure about this one?

Super Kindai, any thoughts? JR

[dinh]

Quote: Originally Posted by jomoma The breeder from japan must not no what he's selling. because kodama and the dealer on ebay list the koi as a Heisei Nishiki. I doubt they would come to this conclusion seperatly unless they were told it was a heisei nishiki by the breeder. To me it looks like the two koi come from the same bloodline. there almost twins.

Oh, how bad it is when you guys kidding around too much ;-))

Jomoma, don't let Tonio and master JR fool you......

Anyway, is that your real name or just screen name Jomoma?

--Dinh

[Super Kindai]

Quote: Originally Posted by JasPR I was just teasing, bud. But since we are on the subject of varieties and I can't possibly talk about kigoi anymore--- I honestly can't see much of a difference between yamato nishiki and Heisei nishiki ? I know the breeders were under a lot of pressure to come up with a new variety for the new era, but I'm just not sure about this one? Super Kindai, any thoughts? JR

Yes, Heisai Nishiki is exactly same as Doitu Yamato Nishiki (^_^)v


As far as I know, Doitu Yamato Nishiki is an official name of that' fish, although some breeders/dealers in Japan use Heisai Nishiki as a new fancy name...

[MikeM]

Jomoma: I did not see the ebay fish, so cannot compare. Whenever you look at pricing on koi, understand that it is a matter of opinion ... the seller's opinion of what he believes he can get for the fish, and the buyer's opinion of worth. What seems to be slight differences to your eye may make a huge difference to someone else. Such characteristics as level of shine on a metallic fish, whether there is any black on the face, and differences in body structure may not seem much different to many people. For someone else, the differences may be crucial to whether a person even wants a fish. If the koikeeper gets as much pleasure from the $30 koi as from a $300 one, then the $30 one is right for that person. For someone else, the $30 koi may be seen as a waste of pond space. Pricing should be irrelevant to deciding which fish you prefer. It is only relevant to whether you are willing to acquire it.