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09-11-2006
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| Tosai  Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Africa
Posts: 29
| Japan Prices Hi The prices in Japan are very good if you are used to buying from a dealer. The only thing is the transport costs are high, so if you but a real cheap koi, the transport costs more than the fish. It pays to but high quality fish, which you can land at home for about half the cost you would pay to but them. Be careful with very small fish that you cannot select yorself, they select for you when they collect and you may be disapointed. Also smaller fish dont travel as well as larger ones. I lost a lot of the fish below 25 cm (about half of them or more) and none of the larger fish. I brought in 40 fish, and all 15 of the big ones are 100%. A friend of mine had the same experience. My advice is to get a few high quality fish above 30 cm, but obviously the very larger ones start to become very costly ... You can always grow out great fish from great tategoi, so get quality while you have the choice! I had a fantastic trip, you will enjoy it I quarantee. Japan is a fantastic experience and the folk there are very friendly and hospitable. Eat lots of Sushi too. Enjoy yourself! Paul |
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10-10-2006
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| Tosai Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Africa
Posts: 29
| Death of small koi Hi Mitch. About the deaths of the small koi ... I wish I knew. I truly have no idea and also very little experience with importing koi, so I dont know if what I say is true in general. However I had that happen and I brought in 40 odd fish. My fellow friend in my town also had the same experience, and my agent also advised same. It seems odd, but the larger fish seem to cope better with the long trip. I know from moving fry of about one week old, they die of fright or for the slightest reason. Some of my big koi have jumped out of breeding ponds and survived the night in the mud, and recovered, perhaps they are just a bit stronger when they are bigger. However, I can confirm for certain that the big fish travelled well. Neither myself or my friend lost even one fish. My biggest was a 74cm female, with eggs incidentally! She was delayed for 70 hours as the plane had mechanical problems on the last leg. Then still an hours drive in 36 deg summer heat in the back of a van before reaching home. No problems at all ... you can import big ones at low risk so dont fear that option! Happy fishing. Paul |
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10-10-2006
| #15 (permalink) |
| Tategoi  Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kentucky
Posts: 463
| Paul, I would imagine that part of it is that the big koi get better handling. I would want one to a box on big expensive koi. Sometimes the smaller koi get over-crowded and ammonia problems can compound in the bags. I know they can sometimes develop ulcers as well after arriving ok. I a took a beating on some small Japanese koi I bought from a US dealer. He explained they are used to a somewhat different bacteria in the biological filter. He suggested not feeding them for a few days after arrival. They dropped like flies for a few weeks and I lost about 75 out of 100. I too have seen the small fellows fall over dead when trying to catch and move them. Mitch |
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03-03-2007
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| Banned Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 26
| spending Honestly I spend to much when I go there, you have to if you want a good deal. Thats why the koi are so expensive because we take a great risk. What would happen if you bought all the koi and half died? Your down a lot of money. But that has never happened to us so I cant complain  |
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03-03-2007
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03-03-2007
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| Honmei Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Martinez,CA
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