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Thread: Jeff Speck's Growout Form

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    Sansai
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    Jeff Speck's Growout Form

    Years in hobby: 4
    Location: California (inland San Diego)
    Zone: 8

    Koi Info
    1st pick (#150) size when recieved January 24, 2008: 6.75"
    87th pick (#10) size when recieved January 24, 2008: 6.5"
    146th pick (#79) size when recieved January 24, 2008: 6.5"

    1st pick (#150) size as of June 11, 2008: 7.50"
    87th pick (#10) size as of June 11, 2008: 7.25"
    146th pick (#79) size as of June 11, 2008: 6.75"

    1st pick (#150) size on February 20, 2009: 14.0"
    87th pick (#10) size on February 20, 2009: 15.0"
    146th pick (#79) size on February 20, 2009: 15.0"

    Koi 1 sex guess when received: trying to pick females
    Koi 2 sex guess when received: trying to pick females
    Koi 3 sex guess when received: trying to pick females

    Food Info
    Brand and Type fed: Hikari wheat germ, Saki-Hikari growth

    Pond Info
    Gallons: 3100 gallons.
    Stocking rate: Three fish 20-25 inches and four tosai.
    Filtration: WLim Dragon 1/4 HP 5940 GPH, Advantage 5 bead filter, WLim 40W UV, spray bar, Hakko 80L air pump.
    Liner Type: Firestone EPDM
    Turnover rate: More than once per hour
    Dimensions: Rectangular, 7.5' deep.
    Water changes: Guessing 20-25% every 5-8 days--I don't have a strict schedule. In winter I do 15-20% every 2-3 weeks. I do test for nitrate and use that as a guide for water changes, keeping the nitrate below 10 ppm. I do not own an ORP meter at this time.

    Pond temp when received: 49'F
    Pond temp at 6 month photo: 68'F
    Pond temp at final photo: 48'F


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    "One-fifty"

    This was the very first pick overall.

    December, 2007: Selection photo. Not much black, but it has size, motoguro, menware, no kinks in the fins.
    January 24, 2008: Photo when received.
    April 20, 2008: Comments: this one seems the most female to me so far. Maybe just wishful thinking. Black has come up a little. Some submerged sumi in places where there was previously only white.
    June 11, 2008: Mid-point photo. Sumi that came up has gone back down. Not much difference from original photo. Minimal growth as we have only now switched to high protein.
    September 8, 2008: Still not much change. Sumi has tightened up nicely on the pecs. Best white of the three, possible female. Grown 6 inches in 3 months.
    February 20, 2009: Body hasn't kept pace with the other two, but skin is very white. Lots of underlying sumi, hope it comes up. A year isn't long enough for this contest.
    May 7, 2009: Confirmed female, but body is going short and plump. Tail tube not impressive. A little bit of sumi coming up on the head now.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Jeff Speck's Growout Form-001-150-jeff-speck.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-150.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-150-june.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-one-fifty-4-sep2008-13-inches.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-150-final.jpg  

    Jeff Speck's Growout Form-shiro-utsuri-omosako-150-6-may2009-14.5-inches.jpg  

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    "Ten"

    This was the 87th pick overall.

    December, 2007: Selection photo. I wanted #10 because it was such a contrast to our first pick #150. Lots of black and looks good-sized to me. More of a gamble, but it could have a checkerboard pattern albeit HEAVY. Also no question about the motoguro.
    January 24, 2008: Photo when received.
    April 20, 2008: Comments: I've actually caught this one chasing twice now. Uh oh, could be a male... Almost completely black now.
    June 11, 2008: Mid-point photo. Sumi that came up has gone back down. Not much difference from original photo. Minimal growth as we have only now switched to high protein.
    September 8, 2008: Sumi is down for growing season, but there is still going to be a ton. Grown almost 6 inches in 3 months.
    February 20, 2009: Sumi is cooperating on this one, should all be up by June. I like the long body, but haven't tried to sex them. A year isn't long enough for this contest.
    May 7, 2009: Confirmed male.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Jeff Speck's Growout Form-087-10-jeff-speck.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-10.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-10-june.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-ten-4-sep2008-12.75-inches.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-10-final.jpg  

    Jeff Speck's Growout Form-shiro-utsuri-omosako-10-6-may2009-15.25-inches.jpg  

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    "Seventy-nine"

    This was the 146th pick overall.

    December, 2007: Selection photo. There weren't many good choices left, but I was delighted to take this fish. Whereas folks probably view my first pick as too short on pattern, and my second fish as having too much black, this last choice is in the middle--more of a standard choice. Hopefully the white will close in around the eyes and the rearward sumi will flourish. Still a clean fish, skin has potential, good fins and motoguro, possibly female.
    January 24, 2008: Photo when received.
    April 20, 2008: Comments: head is very black now. Sumi is very wild and spotty all over the body, whereas more organized sumi would probably be better. This one is the best eater and most friendly. Would really be happy to get 2 or more females out of the 4...
    June 11, 2008: Mid-point photo. Minimal growth as we have only now switched to high protein. This one is my favorite right now. It's friendly and a nice pattern has developed.
    September 8, 2008: Sumi is down for growing season. Grown 7 inches in 3 months. Has developed a "thumb" on one peck fin.
    February 20, 2009: This one has the most bulk of my three. Long way to go. A year isn't long enough for this contest.
    May 7, 2009: Confirmed male.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Jeff Speck's Growout Form-seventy-nine-1-nov2007-6-inches.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-79.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-79-june.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-seventy-nine-4-sep2008-13-inches.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-79-final.jpg  

    Jeff Speck's Growout Form-shiro-utsuri-omosako-79-6-may2009-15.75-inches.jpg  

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    "One-ninety"

    We also acquired one of the leftovers, #t190.

    December, 2007: Selection photo. Looks small to me. The fins look small too, and pointy. Those are my concerns. But I liked the shiroji in the selection picture, could be a small female, never know. I think there's a good chance the tancho will fade. Hope so.
    January 24, 2008: Photo when received.Measures 6.0", so it wasn't much smaller than the others. It had darkened up a lot since the selection photos.
    April 20, 2008: Comments: now that they are eating a little wheat germ, I've noticed the 3 shiros are holding some weight and maybe even growing? Unfortunately this little tancho eats but seems to be getting thinner. Thought--maybe flukes?--so I scraped and scoped yesterday. Didn't find anything. At the very least I would say this is a male.
    June 11, 2008: Mid-point photo. Sumi that came up has gone back down. Minimal growth as we have only now switched to high protein. Definitely male. Not excited about this fish.
    August,
    2008: I gave this fish away. It was not in the contest and was clearly male. I lost interest and needed to reduce my number of fish.



    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Jeff Speck's Growout Form-one-ninety-1-nov2007-5-inches.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-t190.jpg   Jeff Speck's Growout Form-190-june.jpg  

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    Number One!

    Wow what pressure to have the first pic! The white on that fish is simply stunning! I will look forward to watching the progress.

    The Pond Digger

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    Along the way there were several fish that I spent a particlularly long time debating over and subsequently feel a little connection with them. Wanted the list here so I can look for them later in the contest.

    #t200 2nd pick--Bito
    #146 15th pick--Kntry
    #132 23rd pick--Jckoi
    #19 68th pick--Thomas T
    #56 128th pick--Goodkoi
    #t197 142nd pick--Koi2002

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    January 24, 2008: picked up the Omosakos today. Here is a group picture:
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    You're making me feel bad. LOL

    Looking at them in the bowl, all together, I can't recognize any of them. They look so different.

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    Did you measure them individually?
    Yours all looked about the same size at Mystic today(Jeff was there when I was today)


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