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    Gallagher's Ogata Showa Challenge "Luck O de Irish" Page

    Koi Info
    Koi 1 size when recieved: 9.75"


    Koi 2 size when recieved: 8"


    Koi 3 size when recieved:

    Koi 1 size between 10/1/08 and 11/1/08: 11.75"
    Bowled and measured, 1st update 10/30/2008


    Beni is thick, but some secondary Hi has appeared on the tale tube.


    In a little better light.


    Koi 2 size between 10/1/08 and 11/1/08: 9.25"

    Bowled and measured, 1st update 10/30/2008. The beni on this fish is not as thick has #1, but it hasn't declined.

    Modest growth but I'm liking this fish more and more.



    Koi 3 size between 10/1/08 and 11/1/08:

    Koi 1 size between 6/1/09 and 7/1/09: 14"
    I still like this fish a lot. It's not ready for showing but it certainly has a future if the submerged sumi comes up. I will hold on to this one for a few years.




    A rear view



    Koi 2 size between 6/1/09 and 7/1/09: 10.5


    This fish has a ways to go size seems to indicate male.

    Koi 3 size between 6/1/09 and 7/1/09:

    Pond temp when received: 72
    Pond temp at 6 month photo: 60
    Pond temp at final photo: 70

    Pond Info
    Gallons: 900 inside QT; 14,000 main pond / The indoor pond was upgraded to 3200 gallons and the fish spent the winter indoors although the temp was kept in the low 50s.
    Stocking rate:
    15 between 24" and 14"
    Filtration: QT settling tank, home made Kaldness moving bed, Trickle shower, and bead for the polish. Main pond 700 gal settling chamber, Nexus w/easy, waterfall with 4 rounds of Matala
    Liner Type: QT EPDM Liner, main pond Polyeuria
    Turnover rate:QT 2Xper hour, Main pond 1 X per 1.5 hours
    Dimensions:
    Water changes per week: 10% per day in the summer
    Amount of water changed %:

    Food Info
    Brand and Type fed:
    [/COLOR] Blackwater Creek Gold & premium growth, Hi Silk 21, EA.

    Owner Info
    Years in hobby: 10
    Years buying show koi: 6
    Zone:4
    State:Minnesota

    Fun Stuff
    Koi 1 sex guess when received: Female
    Koi 2 sex guess when received: Male
    Koi 3 sex guess when received:
    Koi 1 name:
    Koi 2 name:
    Koi 3 name:
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    I received my grow out fish yesterday. They were in very good condition.

    #38 -#1, pick overall was 9.75" and looked very impressive. the picture I took don't do it justice. The beni was thick and the motoguro was very tight on both sides. I'm hoping the sumi will develop slow and strong but I'm not really sure what to expect. I remember a very wise man saying choose tosai by the strength of the beni and hope for the rest. That was the reasoning behind selecting this fish... besides it 's conformation and size.

    #7 - 31st pick overall came in at 8". I think I'd like to have this pick over. I'm not sure what I was thinking except I thought it was bigger than it turned out to be. Oh well, it'll be interesting to see them grow together.

    In addition to these picks I selected two others to grow out and while they not in the contest, they all are very different and should provide for an interesting learning experience.
    Jim

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    Jim your 38 was my first pick, she has a look of strength about her.

    can we see the other also? please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg View Post
    Jim your 38 was my first pick, she has a look of strength about her.

    can we see the other also? please
    Meg,
    Thanks on 38. I'm hoping I'm better at pick'n Showas than Shiros. Course with the #1 pick you really put yourself on the line. We'll see.

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    Thought I'd show some current pictures of my Ogata Showas. They've had a couple of months since I got them and they seem to have adjusted to their new home. They were moved to the big pond 7/18/2008.
    Koi #38 was the first overall pick.
    Here's what she looked like the day she was moved to the big pond.

    8/22/2008 after a month in the pond.

    This is what she looks like next to the 14.5 'Best Male' winner, at the Upper Midwest Koi Show in Minneapolis.


    My second pick was Showa #7.
    On moving day, 7/18/2008 she looked like this. Note the bit of red on her mouth.


    A month, 8/22/2008, later, 8/22/2008, the red is gone.


    She enjoys swimming with the larger fish. Here she's hanging with a Brady Showa.

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    Jim that #38 is still a beaut! and I can now see hints of sumi on her nose.
    not to sure about the other, seems messy but I guess if the black shoes up in all the right places....


    are you going to show us the other 2 growouts not in the contest, pretty please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg View Post
    Jim that #38 is still a beaut! and I can now see hints of sumi on her nose.
    not to sure about the other, seems messy but I guess if the black shoes up in all the right places....


    are you going to show us the other 2 growouts not in the contest, pretty please?
    I'll post some pictures and an update on the other two fish a little later, Meg.

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    38 is looking really good and in one of the photos I can see the sumi at the base of the right pec too. Wasn't sure if she had sumi on both pecs, but its there

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    Final Updates

    It's been an interesting contest. I'm very happy with my #1 pick, though I'm sure some of you could have put more size on it than I did. It's a fish for the future, the beni is very nice and if the submerged sumi comes up It'll be avery nice fish in a few yrs. The secondary hi that was showing last fall, in the tale tube, has gone away and the shirogi looks very good.
    I want to thank Eastern for arranging the extremely high quality fish for this contest. Nancy, you're top notch for how you handled the contestants who had problems early on and Mr. North as always you ran a quality contest!! Thanks

    P.S. Hope this is where the final pics go I didn't see where we were to send them in as we did in the other contest.
    Jim

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    Jim,

    Good joy with your Showa's.........always keep them long after as they can and will change

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