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Thread: Feeding kio 24" to 32" in length

  1. #61
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    Dec 2003
    I was just explaining why meals instead of all day snacks would have an advantage. I did not get to listen to the EA guy.
    All the facts i stated are correct, and logical.
    i will offer this tidbit....when you feed koi what do they do ...they take a crap...why do they carry around that crap? because they are still using it for sustenance. the large intestine is a source of nutrients

  2. #62
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    Sep 2006
    Feeding is a 'science'. Feeding is an 'art'.

    Which one of these statements is true? BOTH!! LOLs

    The physiology of carp is well studied. They don't have stomachs for holding large meals. So they compensate. Actually this is one of those primitive adaptations for a ( here I go again) a four season cold blooded animal as a strategy for survival - the molding of physiology to the environment. The carp is of a large size but has no teeth ( just grinding molars for mastication in the gill structure) for eating large food items. It certainly isn't a carnivore, as it isn't built to be one based on structure and design!! So how can a massive animal in a freshwater environment sustain itself if it isn't a predatory - meat eater? Simple- scavange! Eat what you can, small prey, bits of decayed flesh, algae, plants, seeds etc. Just grind it and put it in a long absorbing gut and extract what you can from the exposed morsal surface and beyond. As long as the food is travelng the gut it being acted on by beneficial bacteria and enzymes. Just how long the food items are in touch with the digestion, absorption process is temperature based as it is in all clold blooded animals. How well food items of different types are processed is based on enzymes present and that is age related but also seasonally influenced.

    Now for the art- depending on the age of the fish, the time of year and the water temperature, diet will be handled differently.
    In nature, the abundance of food will vary from season to season. But that is OK as the activity of the carp and therefore it's calorie intake needs will follow as both the food supply and type are linked to the same factors as the koi's metabolism ( light and temperature).
    So fry carp are in warm marginal areas ( where they hatched and hide in the same weeds or greenry their parents laid eggs in) and feed extensively on bugs, plankton and insect eggs. They have short guts and thery burn up food in their relavtively short gut quickly. Fry hunt in a loose definition of the term as they are stimulated by sight and smell.
    Adult carp browse all day long and take in modest amounts of food as they find it. The sold reason for barbels as the conditions might be muddy and sight is only so helpful.
    If it is high summer, there is food in abundance and they have high metabolisms at 65- 74 ( this is for carp, weaker koi are likely in the 'sweet spot' in 70-76F).
    So depending on the time of year, the food mix you feed, age of koi and temperature, you want to feed your koi a different amount and mix to match age, season and conditions.
    Ultimately, when in doubt-- feed less.


  3. #63
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    Dec 2003
    remember we are feeding the koi first...and the filters second

  4. #64
    Honmei KoiCop's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasPR View Post
    So depending on the time of year, the food mix you feed, age of koi and temperature, you want to feed your koi a different amount and mix to match age, season and conditions.
    Well put, JR.

    A deceptively simple statement. Unfortunately, it might take years in the hobby before it sinks in just how profound it really is.

    Happy New Year,

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