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Thread: Comments on this koi food?

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    Nisai
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    Comments on this koi food?

    Hi, I'm trying to buy koi food and I was wondering if the ingredients were good.... Would it be okay to use this as my main feeding?

    50 LBS 41% 9/32" GROWTH FORMULA FLOATING BULK KOI FOOD PELLETS

    Guaranteed Analysis
    Crude Protein..............Min. 41.0%
    Crude Fat...................Min. 12.0%
    Crude Fiber..................Max. 4.0%
    Calcium......................Min. 1.65%
    Calcium.....................Max. 2.15%
    Phosphorus..................Min. 1.10%
    Sodium......................Min. 0.10%
    Sodium......................Max. 0.40%
    Vitamin A (min)...........9,000 IU/kg
    Vitamin D (min)...........2,400 IU/kg
    Vitamin E (min)..............110 IU/kg
    Vitamin C (min)............150 mg/kg
    Ingredients: Fish meal, poultry by-product meal, soybean meal, wheat midlings, fish oil, spray dried animal blood cells, soybean oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, lecithin, choline chloride, brewers dried yeast, DL-methionine, calcium pantothenate, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, menadione soduml bisulfite complex, thiamine mononitrate, biotin, folic acid, cholecalciferol, riboflavin, nicotinic acid, DL-alpha tocopheryl acetate, vitamin A acetate, ethoxyquin, zinc oxide, ferrous carbonate, copper sulfate, zinc sulfate, calcium iodate, calcium carbonate, cobalt carbonate

    Ruminant Meat and Bone Meal Free

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    Oyagoi CarolinaGirl's Avatar
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    I think the fat content is way too high. I am also really not crazy about the "chicken by-product meal" and the spray dried animal blood cells? Dang...what on earth are dried animal blood cells?

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    "chicken by-product meal" is likely Feather Meal, which isn't all that uncommon, but the rank position on the list leads one to believe it must include dried bone/marrow meal and possibly dried skin/fat, which could help to explain some of the extra fat content.
    I see no listing for ash, and I'll bet that number is high as well.

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    hmm.... So what koi food do you recommend? I'm trying to buy it in bulk so I can save a little money....

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    Daihonmei PapaBear's Avatar
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    I'm guessing the "dried sprayed blood cells" must be their term for blood meal, which is a complex protein supplement not uncommon in bulk feeds.

    The poultry byproducts aren't generally accepted for Koi food but I don't know how it is processed. Much comes down to price point, but at what cost. You can use catfish pellets for dirt cheap, but you'll have a filthy pond if you do as much of it is cornmeal which Koi cannot digest.

    What does the cost per pound work out to after shipping is figured in?

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    umm 50 pounds for like 100$ free shipping... I've been using MAZURI koi pellets which were sold at the local feed store at 20$ for a 40 lb bag... It had corn meal and like 30% protein in it so I'm trying to switch....

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    ruminant meat and,blood meal and bone meal was HUGE in dairy cattle feeds till what 12-15 years ago.it was in what we fed the dairy cattle for bypass protein and PRE mad cow disease so eliminated from any feed so guessing either
    A fish do not get mad cow disease or
    B is from chicken as described and part of the no ruminent part at end.

    cost,quality and ingrediants depends what you are trying to accomplish with the koi
    am still trying to figure out best food for my koi so i will not recommend anything just added my worthless advice
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    Tommy-Gai is soon to be able to distribute it's 40 plus protein content with a pro-biotic. I'm looking forward to getting one of the first bags when they arrive. might look into this food.....

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    You can buy Blackwater creek or Ultra Balance cheaper than $100 for 40 pounds. That's not much of a bargain at all.

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    Hello pXv and Welcome to K-B . . .

    Regardless of where you're at on the hobby continuum (from beginner to show enthusiast), two things don't change when it come to feeding your koi:

    They deserve quality ingredients and freshness.

    And I'm sorry to say you won't get either buying koi food in bulk at feed stores.

    Best wishes,

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