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Thread: It's a System - Growth rates

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    Oyagoi mrbradleybradley's Avatar
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    I believe mine will be outside the norm and will be disregarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbradleybradley View Post
    I believe mine will be outside the norm and will be disregarded
    I don't know about that. Thusfar the responses have pretty well revolved around the results anticipated from Japanese imports, and that is not always the case even outside Aussieland. Your numbers might bring some balance into the picture by taking domestic breeding into account.
    The fact that we also have numbers coming in from people with very long growing seasons mingled with others whose seasons are comparatively short also moderates the "norm" quite a bit.
    Besides, seeing the results you are producing always has value. Your uphill battle to produce quality Koi without benefit of new Japanese blood always adds value. Very few would have the perseverance to accomplish what you have.
    Larry Iles
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbradleybradley View Post
    I believe mine will be outside the norm and will be disregarded
    Bradley,
    All will become clear in time. Please play and give us your data. If I am a betting man, your daya will not be outside of the norm since what I am analyizing isn't what perhaps you perceive that I am analizing.


    We got two moreQ Thanks all. The more the merrier (even more than ten!)
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    Hey! I want you to donate a dollar to ZNA every time you use one of my tag lines! LOLs. JR

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasPR View Post
    Hey! I want you to donate a dollar to ZNA every time you use one of my tag lines! LOLs. JR
    LOL I might if you play and give me your data.
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    My Thoughts...

    Starting out with a 6" tosai

    Ending Age Size (in)
    1 12
    2 18
    3 24
    4 27
    5 30
    6 33
    7
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
    Well, here is an actual set of measurements...

    March, year 1: 7" tosai
    2. 18.5"
    3. 26"
    4. 29"
    5. ? not measured, but believed to be 30+"

    Holy crap Mike! Good work.

    With only 4 yrs in the hobby I havn't got to 30" inches yet, so anything beyond 26" is speculation....

    Great thread Steve!

    Grant

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    I need to read the thread from the beginning!

    copy write koicentric JR words that carry a penalty:

    "all things will become clear in time"

    " but I digress"

    " the other parish"

    " Carp are to fish as Crows are to birds"

    " moron !"

    " innocent arrogance"

    " koi keeping teachs humility"

    " all tategoi are unfinished but not all unfinished koi are tategoi!"

    " A koi's greatest gift is perhaps it's worst enemy"

    " it's a case of competitive exclusion"

    " a koi pond is not a balanced ecosytem but rather an environment that encourages some natural biological processes and discourages others"

    " The micro species of the invisible world run our ponds"

    " Gosanke can never include Shiro Utsuri"

    " asagi is the most important variety in terms of history and genetic mutation"

    " nishikigoi is a collection of carp races, selected for mutation and then breed to intensify and mix those mutations into specific individual phenoytypes"

    " koi are a temperate water species known to the Japanese as 'four season fish"

    " there are only two base colors in koi- white and black. And there are only four basic pattern types"

    " koi keeping is 60% science and 40% art"

    " koi appreciation is one lesson built on another"

    " you can't understand good koi until you own a few"

    " koi judging is like golf, you must practice it constantly in order to be good at it"

    " koi quality can be determined by grades"

    " quality koi represent not only a mutation in color and pattern but also in skin type itself'

    " Jitai is the secret to a deeper understanding of very good koi as a whole specimen"

    " the koi are innocent!"


    MEANWHILE, I will give you a dollar every time I use YOUR quotes such as:

    "When you find yourself in a hole, first rule is to stop digging!"

    and 50 cents for promotion of the concept that a koi pond is a system ( Nigel gets the other 50 cents )

    your fan, JR

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    So where's all those 22" to 24" Nisai we've been hearing about ?

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    Some of the posters might be a bit confused by the time periods. Koi in the Northern Hemisphere are mostly born in May-July. They would be one year old the following May-July.

    If you buy baby koi in in the spring they are about a year old. So for most of us the size of baby tosai when purchased is pretty much the size they are at one year. I seems that some are putting in a size estimate for 1 year meaning 1 year after purchasing them when they would really be two years old.

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