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    Nisai Benkei's Avatar
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    Cleaning plastic totes?

    Can anyone tell me what guidlines to follow when nuking a used tote? I have PP. The totes contained a chemical used in the two part mix of spray foam. It disolves easily with water. I just want to make sure it gets fully cleaned of the chem.

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    Without knowing the chemicals involved, I do not think it is possible to answer your question.

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    well, PP is for organics, so I doubt you'll need that. When I've done it, I'll rinse, pressure wash, soak, and spray it out with tap water. Not knowing the chemical, as Mike said, can't guarantee that'll work, but if it's just soap or sudsing agent, should be fine. Like using 55g barrels from the car wash, eh?

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    From the MSDS:
    Trade name: NCF1 24-003 A

    Chemical name: polymethylene polyphenylisocyanate

    Synonyms: Polymetric MDI

    Chemical family: aromatic isocyanate


    Second chemical

    Trade name: NCFI 2424-003 R

    Chemical name: mixture

    Synonyms: Polyurethane Resin

    Chemical family: poly resin system
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    I know people who have used spray foam in their ponds with no trouble. Makes me think it shouldnt be a big risk.... Gonna try it with a couple goldfish first...


    Edit: the totes I have contained only the resin.

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    For sure PP won't have any real effect, then. I would think that adequately rinsed should provide no problem. Any warnings on the MSDS? I mean, I'm sure you shouldn't eat it, but I'm thinking there would be a warning if something could leach out.

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    I would give it a good scrubbing with Simple Green, rinse well, then fill it with bleach water, let it set, rinse well, let dry out, and test with nose.

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    Years ago I had some 55 gal. barrels with the same issue. I did much of the same as has been posted above, then I pumped pond water to the barrels and placed a handful of feeder goldfish in them for a couple days. Kind of like a Canary in a Coalmine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEADACHE6 View Post
    Years ago I had some 55 gal. barrels with the same issue. I did much of the same as has been posted above, then I pumped pond water to the barrels and placed a handful of feeder goldfish in them for a couple days. Kind of like a Canary in a Coalmine.
    Headache, did your barrels contain resin as well?

    Thanks for all your responses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benkei View Post
    Headache, did your barrels contain resin as well?

    Thanks for all your responses!
    They held some kind of Chemical, but it's been years ago. I figured if the Goldfish lived in the barrels for a week it would be safe to use as part of the Koi Pond. Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benkei View Post
    From the MSDS:
    Trade name: NCF1 24-003 A

    Chemical name: polymethylene polyphenylisocyanate

    Synonyms: Polymetric MDI

    Chemical family: aromatic isocyanate


    Second chemical

    Trade name: NCFI 2424-003 R

    Chemical name: mixture

    Synonyms: Polyurethane Resin

    Chemical family: poly resin system
    -------------------------------------


    I know people who have used spray foam in their ponds with no trouble. Makes me think it shouldnt be a big risk.... Gonna try it with a couple goldfish first...


    Edit: the totes I have contained only the resin.
    Isocyanates are the hardener compound (component) for spray foam/polyurea. When combined and after a chemical reaction the 2 components are inert (safe), Isocyanates are a chemical that alone are very dangerous. It can affect a persons central nervous system & is an irritant to skin and lungs. I found a generic MSDS for the product listed above for your review:

    http://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chris/PPI.pdf

    We have a polyurea machine and any time work is being preformed on the ISO side there are a minimum of 2 people present so mistakes are not made while working around this chemical.

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