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    I have numerous unopened meds that I can sell. Granted they're all out of date...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnorth View Post
    Isn't it funny how the better you get at the first two steps the less you end up having to do the last two?
    Copy that.

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    Hi ALL THE EXPERIENCED KEEPERS , all the points mentioned are very relevant , but this thread was meant to help the new keepers, who will need most of the meds mentioned.
    Yes the better get the less you need them ! Think back and remember the meds you have used and why you needed them, I would like to bet that it was because of inexperience and or lack of knowledge.

    Some of the items could be classed as for us not the Koi . Backyard Aquaculture yes ! But it never stops there it moves into the house, then takes over your life !
    If you are lucky the wife understands ! If not --------

    Thanks for the input, could still do with some more books.
    Brian

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    Thanks for the input, could still do with some more books.


    Books

    • A Practical Guide to Building And Maintaining a Koi Pond: An Essential Guide to Building And Maintaining, Keith Holmes et al., ISBN-10: 1842860631
    • Advanced Koi Care, Dr. Nicholas Saint-Erne
    • An Essential Guide to Choosing Your Koi Colour Varieties: An Essential Guide to Choosing Your Koi, Nick Fletcher, ISBN-10: 184286064X
    • Basic Koi Ponds, Filters & Water Quality, AKCA
    • Fascinating Koi, Harald Bachmann, ISBN-10: 3931702413
    • Filter Guide, AKCA
    • How to Keep Koi: an Essential Guide, David Twigg,
    • Judging and Buying Koi, AKCA
    • Keeping Koi, Nancy Wisner et al., ISBN 0-8069-3882-X
    • Koi, Grant Fujita
    • Koi (Complete Pet Owner’s Manual), George Blasiola , ISBN 0-7641-2852-3
    • Koi an Owner’s Guide to a Happy Healthy Fish, Gregory Skomal, ISBN 1-58245-032-3
    • Koi and Garden Pools, Dr. Herbert Axelrod
    • Koi 1: Go Sanke Varieties, Harald Bachmann, ISBN 978-3-9811622-2-6
    • Koi 2: Kawari Varieties, Harald Bachmann, ISBN 978-3-9811622-3-3
    • Koi 2 Kichi, Peter Waddington, ISBN 0-9530667-3-8
    • Koi Breeding, Shmuel Rothbard, ISBN-10: 0793802164
    • Koi: A Handbook on Keeping Nishikigoi, Servaas de Kock et al, ISBN 1-84537-040-6
    • Koi Appreciation: The First Step, Kate McGill, ISBN 1-86126-468-2
    • Koi Living Jewels of the Orient, Steve Hickling ed., ISBN 0-7641-5448-6
    • Koi for Dummies, R. D. Bartlett et al., ISBN 978-0-470-09913-1
    • Koi for Home and Garden, Glenn Y. Takeshita
    • Koi Health and Disease 2006 Reload, Dr. Eric L. Johnson
    • Koi Kichi, Peter Waddington, ISBN 0-9526381-0-X
    • Koi Medicine, Lance Jepson, ISBN-10: 1852791772
    • Koi of the World, Dr. Herbert Axelrod
    • Koi Varieties: Japanese Colored Carp-Nishikigoi, Dr. Herbert Axelrod
    • Kokugyo Volume 1, Mamoru Kodama, ISBN 4-88024-255-1
    • Kokugyo Volume 2 Nishikigoi Development, Mamoru Kodama
    • Live Jewels, Masayuki Amano
    • Manual of Koi Health, Keith Holmes et al., ISBN 1-55297-977-6
    • Manual of Nishikigoi, Dr. Takeo Kuroki
    • Modern Nishikigoi, Dr. Takeo Kuroki
    • Nishikigoi: Fancy Koi, Takehiko Tamaki
    • Nishikigoi Still Waters, Nigel Caddock, ISBN 0-9530667-0-3
    • Nishikigoi Textbook, Grant Fugita
    • Nutrition Guide, AKCA
    • Pond Construction Guide, AKCA
    • Step by Step Advanced Koi Diagnosis & Treatments, Duncan Griffiths
    • The Completely Illustrated Guide to Koi, Dr. Herbert Axelrod
    • The Cult of the Koi, Michugo Tamadachi
    • The Essential Book of Koi, Bernice Brewster et al., ISBN 978-0-7938-0623-2
    • The Enigma of Koi, Barry Goodwin, ISBN 0-9526576-1-9
    • The Guide to Owning Koi, David Boruchowitz, ISBN 0-7938-0373-X
    • The Infiltration Book of Koi, Peter Waddington
    • The Koi Doctor, Dr. Maarten Lammens, ISBN 9080856630
    • The Professional’s Book of Koi, Anmarie Barrie
    • The Super Simple Guide to Koi, Brian Scott, ISBN 0-7938-3450-3-1
    • The Tetra Encyclopedia of Koi, Bernice Brewster et al, ISBN 1-56465-145-2
    • The Ultimate Koi, Nick Fletcher ed., ISBN 1-58245-129-X
    • The World of Koi, Keith Holmes et al., ISBN 0-7641-2988-0

    Magazines

    • Koi Carp, magazine of BKKS
    • KOIUSA, magazine of AKCA
    • Nichirin, magazine of ZNA
    • South African Koi Keepers Magazine

    DVD magazines

    • KoiFixx, Lotus Land Koi Farm (no longer available)

    On-line koi magazines

    • Koi-Bito (no longer available)
    • Rinko

    DVDs and Tapes

    • Advanced Koi Keeping, Lotus Land Koi Farm
    • AKCA Koi Classification, AKCA
    • Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Koi
    • Hiroshima Dreaming
    • How the East was Won
    • Koi Carp Master Class: Starting Out, BKKS
    • Koi Fish Video, AKCA
    • Koi Keepers (series of 5 videos, New Vision Videos
    • Living Jewels (series of 10 videos) New Vision Videos
    • Pond Construction
    • Pond Construction & Natural Filtration Video, AKCA
    • Project: Koi Pond
    • Step by Step Design, Construction, Filtration, AKCA
    • In Pursuit of Jumbo Koi, Mike Snaden, Nishikigoi TV
    • The Hunt for Jumbo Tosai, Mike Snaden, Nishikigoi TV
    Koi keeping is not a belief system; it is applied science with a touch of artistry.

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    MCA JUST THE JOB ! All you could ever need to know will be in these books !!!!
    This is for ME as much as the new keepers ! IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO LEARN FROM THE OLDER OR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE !

    Many thanks Oyagoi MCA

    humble Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appliance Guy View Post
    I have numerous unopened meds that I can sell. Granted they're all out of date...
    At one time I kept what I considered a complete array of supplies on hand. It seemed like a good idea to be prepared for any eventuality. I cleaned out all of the expired products one day, most of which had never been opened. Twenty years ago it was challenging to get some stuff. Nowadays, most anything can be had by overnight delivery. (It costs, but is cheaper than a whole bunch of out of date meds.) So, I just keep a couple of basics on hand: ProForm C [F/MG] and Prazi. If something else is needed, I'll order it when needed. So, I currently have some leftover Dimilin sufficient for one treatment. It's been around 2 years and I do not know how long it lasts. Since it is a powder, I expect the shelf life is long. If there is anything else around, it's at the back of the cabinet where supplies are kept and I've forgotten I have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi skilled keeper View Post
    MCA JUST THE JOB ! All you could ever need to know will be in these books !!!!
    This is for ME as much as the new keepers ! IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO LEARN FROM THE OLDER OR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE !

    Many thanks Oyagoi MCA

    humble Brian


    The problem is getting folks to actually purchase and read the books. After spending thousands on pond systems and fish....they had rather glean free info (chaff) off BBSs instead of the grains of truth in the books and videos. IMHO, you get what you pay for.

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    Yes MCA, When in JAPAN I found that they would tell you IN DETAIL all you already knew ! When searching for the true pearls of wisdom , the minutia the would pretend not to understand. It was was to save face, they could have just said its a secret or some thing similar .That's why they won many Grand Champs, by keeping secrets !
    My Advice ( for what its worth ) is spend $100 on one book not $10 on ten books. Loads of good $10 books all are much of a muchness, buy 1 but no more !
    Look for great reviews, by people you trust ( no axes to grind no money to be made ) save up and buy it.
    Amazon have some good trade ins. A used book at half price etc
    Brian
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    So with all the meds listed...What is the MOST common illness or parasite that can enter the pond? And how do they get there? The obvious way is that if you introduce new fish to your pond without undergoing QT procedures. OR somehow something contaminated got thrown or used in the pond transferring the parasite or virus. Is there any other way that these ailments just suddenly appear out of know where? I know in a previous lesson, MikeM mentioned that there are tons of nasty things already in the pond water that we currently have our fish in. How do these escalate to the point of illness and even death to the fish. I guess there is a level of inspection and care that is associated with daily maintenance and viewing of our pet koi. Scary stuff in the water. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akai-San View Post
    So with all the meds listed...What is the MOST common illness or parasite that can enter the pond? And how do they get there? The obvious way is that if you introduce new fish to your pond without undergoing QT procedures. OR somehow something contaminated got thrown or used in the pond transferring the parasite or virus. Is there any other way that these ailments just suddenly appear out of know where? I know in a previous lesson, MikeM mentioned that there are tons of nasty things already in the pond water that we currently have our fish in. How do these escalate to the point of illness and even death to the fish. I guess there is a level of inspection and care that is associated with daily maintenance and viewing of our pet koi. Scary stuff in the water. Thoughts?
    Water plants are a source. Most common parasites? Anchor worm and fish lice can be common. So can costia and flukes.

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