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    Must haves in your MEDICINE Cabinet for Koi treatments

    Hi ALL , I have not been a member long so If I am repeating a well trodden road, put me wright and bump up the old threads!
    I have noticed that their are many less experienced Koi keepers on these pages, GREAT NEW BLOOD , WHO COULD DO WITH SOME HELP from the more experienced and very knowledgeable people who helped form Koi Bito.

    What would you call a must have for a Koi Keeper to have on hand in a medicine cabinet.
    I will start with a good , lockable box or area to store all these medicines , must be dry out of sun light and safe from kids !
    I would then add some good books on Fish ? Koi health. ( any goods ones you know ?)


    Please add what you like, know about and have used, along with for what !
    Price and where to obtain would be nice.

    Tips on what not to use together would be helpful

    I hope to have a list of may be 10 to 20 items which will cover all common needs !

    Thanks will watch this list grow !

    Brian

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    For starters...

    A good book on Koi health like The Koi Doctor by Dr. Maarten Lammens.

    If you use city treated tap water - sodium thiosulfate to dechlorinate tap water.


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    Most cities use Chloramines to treat water, so combining the ST (Sodium Thiosulfate) with an ammonia binder is a good thing to consider, especially for larger water changes or newer ponds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricshaw View Post
    For starters...

    A good book on Koi health like The Koi Doctor by Dr. Maarten Lammens.

    If you use city treated tap water - sodium thiosulfate to dechlorinate tap water.

    Great starting point Rick ! I was told years ago , Koi KEEPING is actually water keeping in which you just choose to place Koi !
    Get the water right and the fish look after them self !

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    microscope and skill to use it
    ORP meter with calibration liquid
    test meters or drop kits for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate
    test meter or drop kit for pH and KH. GH not so important
    FMG product like Terminate
    Prazi product (get it in kgs and save major money) or superverm (for koi only)
    PP, if you have a calibrated ORP meter
    Dimilin for lice and anchor worms (if you get fish from mud ponds....other fish should not likely have those parasites)
    Tricideneo to clean wounds
    Salt for dip/bath or for hospital tank (not the same at QT tank)
    Baytril 10% with dosing chart based on fish size/weight
    syringes and needles for IM baytril injections


    medicine cabinet support:
    show bowls for examination and triage
    show tank with cover to use as hospital tank
    air pump and stones for hospital tank
    Elbagin for fish transport
    4mil bags, I prefer 24x48
    rubber bands or tie wraps for closing bags
    herding and sock nets
    coolers with foam
    O2 bottle with regulator
    Koi keeping is not a belief system; it is applied science with a touch of artistry.

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    [QUOTE=MCA;208368]microscope and skill to use it
    ORP meter with calibration liquid
    test meters or drop kits for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate
    test meter or drop kit for pH and KH. GH not so important
    FMG product like Terminate
    Prazi product (get it in kgs and save major money) or superverm (for koi only)
    PP, if you have a calibrated ORP meter
    Dimilin for lice and anchor worms (if you get fish from mud ponds....other fish should not likely have those parasites)
    Tricideneo to clean wounds
    Salt for dip/bath or for hospital tank (not the same at QT tank)
    Baytril 10% with dosing chart based on fish size/weight
    syringes and needles for IM baytril injections


    medicine cabinet support:
    show bowls for examination and triage
    show tank with cover to use as hospital tank
    air pump and stones for hospital tank
    Elbagin for fish transport
    4mil bags, I prefer 24x48
    rubber bands or tie wraps for closing bags
    herding and sock nets
    coolers with foam
    O2 bottle with regulator[/QUOTE

    IS THAT ALL! Only joking !seem to have most things covered , Any books come to mind ?
    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi skilled keeper View Post
    I was told years ago , Koi KEEPING is actually water keeping in which you just choose to place Koi !
    I think of Koi keeping as backyard aquaculture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCA View Post
    microscope and skill to use it
    ORP meter with calibration liquid
    test meters or drop kits for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate
    test meter or drop kit for pH and KH. GH not so important
    FMG product like Terminate
    Prazi product (get it in kgs and save major money) or superverm (for koi only)
    PP, if you have a calibrated ORP meter
    Dimilin for lice and anchor worms (if you get fish from mud ponds....other fish should not likely have those parasites)
    Tricideneo to clean wounds
    Salt for dip/bath or for hospital tank (not the same at QT tank)
    Baytril 10% with dosing chart based on fish size/weight
    syringes and needles for IM baytril injections


    medicine cabinet support:
    show bowls for examination and triage
    show tank with cover to use as hospital tank
    air pump and stones for hospital tank
    Elbagin for fish transport
    4mil bags, I prefer 24x48
    rubber bands or tie wraps for closing bags
    herding and sock nets
    coolers with foam
    O2 bottle with regulator
    "Must haves" in your MEDICINE Cabinet for Koi or are some of these "must haves" for the super Koi kichi and/or Koi show person?

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    I think perhaps the openiing question in this thread should be something like..

    What steps are you willing and able to do to establish and maintain the health of your koi? After all the medicine cabinet is not needed until a problem is diagnosed.

    How about steps such as:

    Establish baseline water quality parameters and watch for deviations

    Observe koi behavior, skin quality...etc as indications of their health

    Diagnose problem areas such as water quality, parasites, and bacteria or viral infections

    Treat problems with water quality, parasites or infections


    I think the medicine cabinet comes in on the last two steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCA View Post
    How about steps such as:

    Establish baseline water quality parameters and watch for deviations

    Observe koi behavior, skin quality...etc as indications of their health

    Diagnose problem areas such as water quality, parasites, and bacteria or viral infections

    Treat problems with water quality, parasites or infections


    I think the medicine cabinet comes in on the last two steps.
    Isn't it funny how the better you get at the first two steps the less you end up having to do the last two?
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