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    One of a kind

    One of a kind-kawari2-14-sept.jpg


    This one off kawarimono turned up in one of my carp hybrid spawns

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbradleybradley View Post
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    This one off kawarimono turned up in one of my carp hybrid spawns
    VERY NICE , I THINK ? Can I have 1000 for next season ! only joking

    HOW would you describe that ? I think it looks a bit like the skin of a leopard Gecko .

    hope you are going to grow it on, just to have a look how it grows, if nothing else.

    I keep hearing that there is nothing new to breed, well what is that ? new or what ?

    Keep on going, you may create a new type by accident.

    Good luck

    Brian

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    One of a kind-side.jpg

    side shot.

    New variety ? - well no, just a one shot and I am expecting the appearance is only a transitional look as this koi develops. Make a comparison to 'kage-like' sumi in Showa, where the sumi 'comes' up later to fill in the gaps and make for thick black sumi.

    This is unique koi for now, but will be ordinary tomorrow.

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    Thank you for sharing.

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    If Dr. Kuroki were here to name it, perhaps Kage Beni Suminigashi?

    Yes, a 'here today, gone tomorrow' transitional look. Still, a neat little guy that would sell quickly in a vat of tosai.

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    LOL,
    The parentage is an outcross within my carp jumbo program, so anything is possible to how the colours develop. The first koi farmers, Sakai & Brady probably saw similar along the way to their own and our beautful koi. You have to admire the first farmers and their vision. To produce something like this and then imagine what else is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbradleybradley View Post
    LOL,
    The parentage is an outcross within my carp jumbo program, so anything is possible to how the colours develop. The first koi farmers, Sakai & Brady probably saw similar along the way to their own and our beautful koi. You have to admire the first farmers and their vision. To produce something like this and then imagine what else is possible.
    Hi There, your example shows just how much of a lottery the first breedings must have been.
    Seeing parents with a trait then getting that same trait in the subsequent off spring is not as straightforward as you would imagine .
    I keep going back to what you are doing ( note not saying trying to do ) is adding a few 000 to the odds on success .
    Most people are happy to get the colours they want in the correct percentages.
    You are doing that, then deciding just where they are to appear on the Koi, must make your 'keepers' numbers so low.
    Keep going and posting.
    I would love to see your records, to try and work out your thought patterns .
    good luck
    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbradleybradley View Post
    LOL,
    The parentage is an outcross within my carp jumbo program, so anything is possible to how the colours develop. The first koi farmers, Sakai & Brady probably saw similar along the way to their own and our beautful koi. You have to admire the first farmers and their vision. To produce something like this and then imagine what else is possible.
    Or, is it that we have become jaded by what is considered an average nishikigoi today? This is an amazing carp, but just a curiosity as a koi. A hundred years ago, I suspect this one would have been honored with special over-winter care while brethren were smoked and dried for survival fare. ....If I had 'her', I'd keep her until her development eliminated the unique traits.

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    Even if the look changes to become a grey koi-carp hybrid, this one will be kept as I am building a set of possible oyagoi for the longer term jumbo plan. It may or may not make that proud place, but Unusual types along the way are a fun part of the journey. And those that are a part of the one's I keep, I can tell about in the stories around camp fire.

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    I'm seeing goshiki sanke. Even seeing some tejima on the fishes right pec. looks male with pointy pecs. thanks for sharing

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