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    Oyagoi mrbradleybradley's Avatar
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    1 year old from beni matsukawabake spawn

    1 year old from my beni matsukawabake spawn. 6 months ago this was an aka muji1 year old from beni matsukawabake spawn-beni-matsu-1-year-old.jpg

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    You're getting warmer. You should post the pic on KS "unique koi" to bump that old thread.

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    Hi Rob - I have not been able to get onto KS, no idea why?? As this koi has a long road ahead it really has a lot more sumi to fill in the gaps (warmer today - hot next year!). So, will post more pics as it develops. I have others in the same spawn with the same identity decisions ahead. Further, what is obvious to me might not be so much to others - experience in building the line for me reveals. The cheek sumi for example has a tell!

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    Yes, I am wondering how it will turn out. Will it be like a Hi Utsuri? Or, could the sumi come and go with the seasons forever? Or, does the sumi end up covering the fish, leaving just a red belly?

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    As you know, the cheek sumi is a matsukawabake trait.

    The sumi orientation in the parent koi were dorsal and lateral. Wrapped sumi is not found in the parent koi. Most of the offspring have picked up the sumi dorsal location and many have dorsal sumi with a lateral orientation. The identity of many can be a challenge as they have a mix of looks. There is much to be said here for inheritance and gene expression. Dorsal location is dominant, as appears to be the seasonal ebb of sumi. Matsukawabake do not change forever, they get to a point where the change finishes, usually with a hajiro or hageshiro look. The sumi finishes up from the belly and finishes from the tail to the head. So far, this mix does not to follow that usual pattern of development.

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