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Thread: HELP! New Pond Syndrome going crazy!!

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    Tosai
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    Unhappy HELP! New Pond Syndrome going crazy!!

    So I've had my pond now for 6.5 weeks (5.5 weeks with Koi in it) and the pond is 900gal. I have 2 filter boxes and a pump at 3200gpm.
    The chemistry is as follows:

    Nitrite: 5ppm
    Ammonia: 2.5ppm
    Ph: 9
    Pond has 7 koi: 1-3", 2-6", 1-8", 3-12" to 14"

    When I first started it up I didn't add live bacteria but purchased some (was in aquarium section at PetSmart) to put in the pond on Friday (9/4). I placed Prime in to protect them against the Nitrite and Ammonia and feed only a little every 2-4 days now since this has been going on. There's tarp over the pond when the temperature gets too hot outside.

    The fish appear normal and mainly come up to eat except the one that likes to stay at the surface. I can't tell if they're slowing down or not. Do I need to do another water change as the levels are so high? Or should I wait until the bacteria grow?

    Please help!

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    What build material is the surface of your pond finished with?

    Is the one fish at the surface just hanging?

    Is it piping, mouth open gulping for air?

    When in doubt do small water changes.

    You can help to burn off chlorine by adding makeup water through a garden sprayer, spraying above the pond and allowing the water to fall back in droplet form.

    Full sun helps to dissipates the chlorine.

    Feed regularly but sparingly. Morning noon and late afternoon with a snack in between.

    Koi do not have stomachs.Therefore small amounts regularly.

    No food left after a few minutes of feeding.

    Cheers

    Garfield

    PS Is this the pond with the bottom gravel filter?

    GET RID OF IT.

    Absolute rubbish

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwon View Post
    Hi
    What build material is the surface of your pond finished with?

    Is the one fish at the surface just hanging?

    Is it piping, mouth open gulping for air?

    When in doubt do small water changes.

    You can help to burn off chlorine by adding makeup water through a garden sprayer, spraying above the pond and allowing the water to fall back in droplet form.

    Full sun helps to dissipates the chlorine.

    Feed regularly but sparingly. Morning noon and late afternoon with a snack in between.

    Koi do not have stomachs.Therefore small amounts regularly.

    No food left after a few minutes of feeding.

    Cheers

    Garfield
    I use a pond liner from Firestone, 45mil EPDM.

    The one that is hanging around the surface, Apollo, it's normal for him and he's done that almost since day one, he's not gulping for air.

    The water has been treated for chlorine, nitrite, and ammonia with Prime. I will have to treat again in 24hrs.....

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    How many Koi (and size) in 900 gallon pond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricshaw View Post
    How many Koi (and size) in 900 gallon pond?
    7 koi:
    1-3", 2-6", 1-8", 3-12 to 14"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnlauren View Post
    7 koi:
    1-3", 2-6", 1-8", 3-12 to 14"
    My advice now would be to get some FritzZyme® TurboStart and ClorAm-X Dry powder (removes ammonia for 72 hours).

    My advice for others is to not start out with such a high fish load when cycling a new pond!
    IMO bnlauren would have been better off to start with only three 12" Koi until the pond biological filter had a chance to cycle. Then add additional fish one or two at a time until the fish load capacity of the biological filtration is met (which may be less then 7 Koi).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricshaw View Post
    My advice now would be to get some FritzZyme® TurboStart and ClorAm-X Dry powder (removes ammonia for 72 hours).

    My advice for others is to not start out with such a high fish load when cycling a new pond!
    IMO bnlauren would have been better off to start with only three 12" Koi until the pond biological filter had a chance to cycle. Then add additional fish one or two at a time until the fish load capacity of the biological filtration is met (which may be less then 7 Koi).
    I just added bacteria to the pond Friday and Prime that neutralizes chlorine, ammonia, and nitrite as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnlauren View Post
    I just added bacteria to the pond Friday and Prime that neutralizes chlorine, ammonia, and nitrite as well.
    Good luck and keep us posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricshaw View Post
    Good luck and keep us posted.
    So ricshaw, from what I understand you wouldn't do a water change since it's a newer pond? You would just keep adding Prime until bacteria multiplies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnlauren View Post
    So ricshaw, from what I understand you wouldn't do a water change since it's a newer pond? You would just keep adding Prime until bacteria multiplies?
    No, I would drastically cut back on feeding and do normal water changes WITH a chloramine removing product that also removes ammonia.

    Ammonia: 2.5ppm bothers me.

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