Home | About Us | Contact Us


Koi Forum - Koi-Bito Magazine straight from Japan
Page 3 of 13 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 121

Thread: New Momotaro Bakki Shower

  1. #21
    Jumbo koinut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Sacramento, CA.
    Posts
    643
    Quote Originally Posted by dubtaco View Post
    Sorry to steal your thunder, I was excited about it when I saw the pics!
    No Problem. I will be glad to try and answer your question, and if I can't get it, I can ask Momotaro.

  2. #22
    Tosai trac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Mililani, Hawaii
    Posts
    35
    So I guess (I'm speculating here) that there is no need for multiple trays as there is enough air through the unit therefore eliminating the need for the air gap between the trays?

    Possibly because the water spilling into the tray is pulling the air down with it?
    Or there is enough space that there is no need for additional air?

    Has anyone heard the difference in the amount of noise the multiple tray one vs the single huge tray one makes?

  3. #23
    Daihonmei dick benbow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    seattle, wa
    Posts
    6,340

    many moons ago when the bakki first cane out

    I redesigned it and had some made at 1/3 scale to "play" with. I use BH filter media . It has been a good unit and over the years I break a piece of media in half and smell it to make sure it's not packinging and souring and it isn't.
    I think for indoor or protected ponds this "couldbe" cooling tower does work. I figure I saved half on the DIY trays enough for me to afford the media. Would be interested to hear from Momotaro what's new with this design and what extra features it offers.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails New Momotaro Bakki Shower-filter-room-april-2007-007.jpg  

  4. #24
    Jumbo koinut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Sacramento, CA.
    Posts
    643
    Quote Originally Posted by trac View Post
    So I guess (I'm speculating here) that there is no need for multiple trays as there is enough air through the unit therefore eliminating the need for the air gap between the trays?

    Possibly because the water spilling into the tray is pulling the air down with it?
    Or there is enough space that there is no need for additional air?

    Has anyone heard the difference in the amount of noise the multiple tray one vs the single huge tray one makes?
    As for the size of the tray, they found that with this dimension they were able to cut cost by using full sheets of Stainless Steel without wasting too much material. As for the not having multiple trays, he didn't mention a difference any advantages either way. For the noise level, it is very noisy at the farm with multiple units running, so I'll find out in a few weeks.

    Rob Barreras
    Majestic Koi

  5. #25
    Jumbo koinut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Sacramento, CA.
    Posts
    643
    Quote Originally Posted by dick benbow View Post
    I redesigned it and had some made at 1/3 scale to "play" with. I use BH filter media . It has been a good unit and over the years I break a piece of media in half and smell it to make sure it's not packinging and souring and it isn't.
    I think for indoor or protected ponds this "couldbe" cooling tower does work. I figure I saved half on the DIY trays enough for me to afford the media. Would be interested to hear from Momotaro what's new with this design and what extra features it offers.
    Hi Dick,

    I think this unit works for the larger systems. The benefit he told me was that it can handle much more media than the tray, and also cuts down cost if you were to have multiple trays made as opposed to just having one.

    The trays are still being used as well as the new style shower.

    What I have noticed is that a lot of people are actually covering up the sides to on the multiple tray units to cut down on splashing, noise and temperature control.

    Best regards,

    Rob Barreras
    Majestic Koi

  6. #26
    Jumbo koinut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Sacramento, CA.
    Posts
    643

    water flow

    I also forgot to mention that Momotaro did mention that "Bakki" translates as "BREAKING" or "BREAKING OF". The theory behind it is that the water should be forceful onto the media. By not doing so will result in just having TT.

  7. #27
    Oyagoi Lam Nguyen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Portland, Oregon
    Posts
    1,671
    Quote Originally Posted by dick benbow View Post
    I redesigned it and had some made at 1/3 scale to "play" with. I use BH filter media . It has been a good unit and over the years I break a piece of media in half and smell it to make sure it's not packinging and souring and it isn't.
    I think for indoor or protected ponds this "couldbe" cooling tower does work. I figure I saved half on the DIY trays enough for me to afford the media. Would be interested to hear from Momotaro what's new with this design and what extra features it offers.
    Hi Dick, this sounds like a good DIY topic for koi magazine. I am really interested in getting a Bakki tower for my pond, but having one of the 'cattle dip' dimension might not bode well with my neighbors.
    Last edited by jnorth; 08-22-2007 at 06:08 AM. Reason: removed advert

  8. #28
    Tosai
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    23

    Nice avatar Chris!

    Sorry to steal your thunder, I was excited about it when I saw the pics!


    Hi Chris, I like your avatar very much..nice simple showa
    is it yours?
    I bet she had won many championship..

    koihaku

  9. #29
    Sansai dubtaco's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    SLC, UTAH
    Posts
    278
    Quote Originally Posted by koihaku View Post
    Hi Chris, I like your avatar very much..nice simple showa
    is it yours?
    I bet she had won many championship..

    koihaku
    Yeah but it choked on a hotdog and died


  10. #30
    Honmei
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Martinez,CA
    Posts
    4,611

    If that's the case!

    Quote Originally Posted by dubtaco View Post
    Yeah but it choked on a hotdog and died



    ...............then no more hot dogs for you.

Page 3 of 13 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Need Bakki Shower
    By jasonkoi in forum Pond Construction
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 02-09-, 10:28 AM
  2. Do I need a Bakki Shower
    By DaveB in forum Main Forum
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 04-16-2012, 02:06 AM
  3. New bakki shower
    By HenryC in forum Main Forum
    Replies: 51
    Last Post: 02-12-2011, 04:29 PM
  4. Question on Momotaro Bakki Shower
    By aqkoi2 in forum Main Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-12-2008, 09:51 PM
  5. Momotaro Bakki shower & bacteria house
    By Vogata in forum Main Forum
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 09-06-2004, 04:07 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Articles - Sitemap - FAQs and Rules

KB Footer Graphic
Straight from Japan... For the serious hobbyist!
All content and images copyright of: Koi-bito.com