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Old 05-08-2009   #41 (permalink)
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Hey Steve,
Fire anyone lately?
Maybe you can get Nancy or Don to help close that circle of influence at the magazine in Say hey to the lovely wife. People still insult her on the Internet? She has thick skin though and can dish it out as well as take it right
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ROTFLMAO, If you are going to come on bito, and talk the talk.. at least get better information.. I am not nor have I ever been on any AKCA committee.
UMMMMMMMM why don't you ask Tom and Cindy???
You can't get better information than the facts. The committee members aren't announced public affairs the same as the actual vote counts for board members aren't released in the board minutes, etc. You are safe
As for Tom & Cindy it isn't a matter of my not having spoken with them. I already knew the answer before I asked it obviously.
Likewise, the bylaws were never changed to allow a quorum to be fulfilled via a phone line connection. Thus, plain and simply when members aren't in attendance in sufficient numbers and they continue to make business decisions and appropriate money, etc, they are doing so in an inappropriate fashion. Of course no one cares the same as no one cares about JRs claim that Spike has been involved in misappropriation of funds other than you guys that are on a witch hunt. Funny though isn't it that Doug signs all the checks rather than the portrayal you guys are propagating that Spike is taking money from an AKCA bank account and handing it to one of his friends.

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You can't get better information than the facts. The committee members aren't announced public affairs the same as the actual vote counts for board members aren't released in the board minutes, etc. You are safe
As for Tom & Cindy it isn't a matter of my not having spoken with them. I already knew the answer before I asked it obviously.
Likewise, the bylaws were never changed to allow a quorum to be fulfilled via a phone line connection. Thus, plain and simply when members aren't in attendance in sufficient numbers and they continue to make business decisions and appropriate money, etc, they are doing so in an inappropriate fashion. Of course no one cares the same as no one cares about JRs claim that Spike has been involved in misappropriation of funds other than you guys that are on a witch hunt. Funny though isn't it that Doug signs all the checks rather than the portrayal you guys are propagating that Spike is taking money from an AKCA bank account and handing it to one of his friends.

Can't wait till tonight!

Still got your facts all mixed up... Koi USA and AKCA have different bylaws. Like I said try to get some better information, your sources are maling you like mighty foolish.

No one ever said Spike "is taking" money.. Again get your facts straight..
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Nancy,

When did HAH ever get his facts straight???
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Funny though isn't it that Doug signs all the checks rather than the portrayal you guys are propagating that Spike is taking money from an AKCA bank account and handing it to one of his friends.

I've avoided this topic, but that statement is so off-base, and so likely to start an internet feeding frenzy, that I have to jump in. Never has anyone suggested any underhanded dealings has occurred with funds. What is being questioned by some is the very public and formally approved use of donated funds for purposes other than KHV research, when many donors contributed in the belief that their money would go to research. Among those who disagree with Spike, I am not aware of a single person who questions his good intentions.
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You must have your eyes and ears closed then. All this talk is a personal affront to the integrity of Spike Cover. Ask him as Nancy advises regarding the Grahams.
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Only mentioned AKCA bylaws. For the purpose of this discussion I couldn't care less about the house organs.
The AKCA bylaws are quite public.
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Still got your facts all mixed up... Koi USA and AKCA have different bylaws. Like I said try to get some better information, your sources are maling you like mighty foolish.
No one ever said Spike "is taking" money.. Again get your facts straight..
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I've avoided this topic, but that statement is so off-base, and so likely to start an internet feeding frenzy, that I have to jump in. Never has anyone suggested any underhanded dealings has occurred with funds. What is being questioned by some is the very public and formally approved use of donated funds for purposes other than KHV research, when many donors contributed in the belief that their money would go to research. Among those who disagree with Spike, I am not aware of a single person who questions his good intentions.
Spike has done more for the real koi hobby in the U.S. than all the anons could ever imagine. THis is the reason so few want to volunteer their time and talents for any organization. No good deed goes unpunished is all to true as long as anon's creep around like cowards tossing out their venom and hoping to poison what they envy but cannot understand.
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Well howdy Ray,
Come to chime in with your friends who dance around the cooking pot they have put your former friend Spike Cover in? He and Karen are such terrible folks aren't they? Let me guess; you will be the next guy in charge as you formerly handled publicity. You can spin a purty face on the remains for whatever your SoCal dealers direct

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It could be almost any number of sewer rats that live under the anon out house and occasionally crawl out to spew their jealous childish prattle.
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Cowards says the brave old man.
Spike's problem isn't with me, but the likes of those in your gaggle of friends in the dealer network who are on a mission to destroy what he has started. Karen is so evil isn't she? Stop being two faced and pony up cowboy.

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