Formal announcement ;running for office

[JasPR]

Ok hopefully 'the warriors' have left the building, so we can move on----

If I'm elected I will create an email list for those I think will be helpful in the process of rehabilitation of the beleaguered koiphen board. These folks will all be known koi people from Koiphen, K-Bito, NI, AKCA and ZNA. Each will sit on a new board of directors and each will give input.
In an extension of the olive branch, I will fly down to Stephen Height's home ( second week of November) after the election and spend a weekend discussing the new plans for the board. He will be invited to remain on the board as a rep for koiphen. He is the founding father and that will be honored, it's only fair.
Better times ahead-- can you see the vision fo what things will be?

JR candidate for change

[zek]

Quote: Originally Posted by JasPR Ok hopefully 'the warriors' have left the building, so we can move on---- If I'm elected I will create an email list for those I think will be helpful in the process of rehabilitation of the beleaguered koiphen board. These folks will all be known koi people from Koiphen, K-Bito, NI, AKCA and ZNA. Each will sit on a new board of directors and each will give input. In an extension of the olive branch, I will fly down to Stephen Height's home ( second week of November) after the election and spend a weekend discussing the new plans for the board. He will be invited to remain on the board as a rep for koiphen. He is the founding father and that will be honored, it's only fair. Better times ahead-- can you see the vision fo what things will be? JR candidate for change

That would be like reaching the promised land and something I'd like to see happen. You wouldn't be worried about brown shirts when you got there?

[sundan]

Quote: Originally Posted by JasPR Ok hopefully 'the warriors' have left the building, so we can move on---- If I'm elected I will create an email list for those I think will be helpful in the process of rehabilitation of the beleaguered koiphen board. These folks will all be known koi people from Koiphen, K-Bito, NI, AKCA and ZNA. Each will sit on a new board of directors and each will give input. In an extension of the olive branch, I will fly down to Stephen Height's home ( second week of November) after the election and spend a weekend discussing the new plans for the board. He will be invited to remain on the board as a rep for koiphen. He is the founding father and that will be honored, it's only fair. Better times ahead-- can you see the vision fo what things will be? JR candidate for change

JR, don't really know if you are joking around or serious. If serious how can that be if you are not even a member of WWKC.

[JasPR]

Hi Sundan, yes we have talked about this before. I write for the WWKC's organizational magazine. I am east coast editor. But I am banned from participating on Koiphen and by extension , not allowed to be an official member of WWKC. The ultimate catch 22- I am banned so I can't run so I run to become 'unbanned'. But to be very clear, it is the opposing party that keeps me out, the party I am running against that keeps the ban in place. So if I win I may be a President of the people living in exile! Not to worry though, I will still serve the koiphen members by winning in the free election. If a candidate emerges who's policies are similar to mine, I will swing my votes to that insider sanctioned candidate. We have seen this in many third world countries in just the past few years. It seems to be how politics is played out in third world countries and third world koi clubs?


At some point I may have to fire up another board and serve in that capacity?
JR, candidate for change

[JasPR]

Zek, thanks for your encouraging remarks! No, I'm not too worrried as the insider group or their brown shirts is a remarkably small group with our organization. I doubt it is more than 6-8 people and might even be smaller than that! In fact, I KNOW that the number of people banned is ten times the size the number of insiders. If you do the math, if koiphen has 16,000 members worldwide ( I've heard that number many times from the insiders), and the controlling interests count is indeed 10, then you have a ruling class in the extreme minority as .000625% of the population.
Remember, when this board was founded we were ALL told that unlike ' the other parish' I.E., KoiVet who had become banning happy, that there would not be any bannings on the new koiphen board. As you can see, not even the very first and most fundamental pledges were kept. I will end that practice and allow ALL banned individuals to return. I will also open up the decision process to more that .000635% of the members.

- JR

[niji]

Quote: Originally Posted by JasPR Good Morning, Things seemed to have settled down so let me tell you what I would have done if this banter in the past few posts had popped up on Koiphen and I was acting president; First I would have asked Brutus, Luke and niji to get back on topic or go to the " just plain brawling" section of the new improved koiphen board . If they persisted on this thread I would give a second warning. If ignored I would PM all parties as a formal warning. If ignored, Brutus, luke and niji would be suspended for one week. If they immediately returned to this thread and began again, the suspension would be for one month and then six months. So please vote for JR - the Candidate for hope and change.

In other words no dissent is allowed and everyone must agree with you and your little clique or they get bashed then banned. And how is this any different from what you are complaining about others doing??? Because in your mind your clique is superior and always right so that makes it 'right' and 'permissible'? You still don't see the point yet? Bullying is bullying JR, no matter what form or method it takes or excuse it makes.

My comments have been on topic and you have yet to address the concerns I brought up, AND I still have no button!!!! Are you out of them already? Is your campaign underfunded? You have to use koi-bito to attack koiphen because??? You are engaged in multiple very harsh controversies on every board you are on and still you remain 'right' in your own eyes and unable to resolve those real and deep personal conflicts, so how can you lead any organization bound to be rife with conflicts that need resolving??? Nothing personal I think deep down you are a good guy, just a tad out of touch. Conflict resolution has nothing to do with rules and everything to do with attitude, beliefs about self and others, enforcement style, and being a decent hearted person, which is why I like jnorth so much and admire his people skills. How can you treat others with respect when you have no respect for 99% of all others? I just don't see it as possible for you to accomplish given your illustrious track record on the boards daily for many years now. Although I do think deep down you are a good person with alot of knowledge who loves koi and in his own way deeply enjoys and loves the whole koi community, but you have to admit you do cause and sustain multiple major conflicts as a lifestyle.

[JasPR]

Thanks so much for your thoughts niji.

Every Thread has a topic and generally speaking the thread tends to stay with that topic or evolve into a detail or related area of that topic. If that did not happen, threads would devolve into confusion and become directionless. Often you hear the complaint from the creator of the thread that their thread has been high jacked as the topic is moved from conversation to debate and debate to arguments. I think I actually come up with a very creative way to allow you guys to have your fun without causing management to close this post due to out of control name calling.
I assure you that if you disrupted the thread of the insiders over at koiphen you would be deleted and possibly banned. That is way way different than what happened to you- which is 'nothing'!

So in your case, I did not bully you. I actually helped you and Brutus to find your way to your very own thread so you two could have your fun without me interrupting you with my posts. No need to thank me of course, but for heaven's sake, don't condemn me for helping you guys out and onto your own thread!

Please consider voting for change. JR

[JasPR]

Dear niji, sorry I didn't read your entire post. I see the specific questions you have asked and would be more than happy to answer your questions;

"My comments have been on topic and you have yet to address the concerns I brought up, AND I still have no button!!!! Are you out of them already?
hi niji, no I don't have them yet.

"Is your campaign underfunded?"

Yes, very much underfunded. But I do the best I can with the little I have.

" You have to use koi-bito to attack koiphen because???"
Not aware of any attacks made on Koiphen specifically? I joke alot about the level of the koi subjects and the dealer involvement sometimes. Is that what you are referring to?

"You are engaged in multiple very harsh controversies on every board you are on and still you remain 'right' in your own eyes and unable to resolve those real and deep personal conflicts, so how can you lead any organization bound to be rife with conflicts that need resolving???"

Yes, as a poster I can get downright feisty spirited and exuberant, aggressive and touchy! But as your new leader I will surpress that side of my personality for the greater good!


"Nothing personal I think deep down you are a good guy, just a tad out of touch."
I also think I'm a good guy so we have that in common!

"Conflict resolution has nothing to do with rules and everything to do with attitude, beliefs about self and others, enforcement style, and being a decent hearted person, which is why I like jnorth so much and admire his people skills."

Me too and I was thinking of him as one of the new monitors.


"How can you treat others with respect when you have no respect for 99% of all others?"
O that's not true, I have huge respect for many people in this hobby.

" I just don't see it as possible for you to accomplish given your illustrious track record on the boards daily for many years now. Although I do think deep down you are a good person with alot of knowledge who loves koi and in his own way deeply enjoys and loves the whole koi community, but you have to admit you do cause and sustain multiple major conflicts as a lifestyle"

I do have dust ups here and there. But if you count them up and then count up the postive posts and articles I have written on koi there is no comparison.
Most people who know me or meet me in real life come to understand that the 'JR' persona is part me and part parody.
I run a 250 million dollar business in real life and am pretty good at managing things. I might surprise you?

_ JR

[niji]

JR as a man I like you and like he way you stand up for what you believe and for your own self and dignity which you and every human being fully deserve.

It is the running bantering of certain people and groups, the demeaning talk about certain dealers or distributors or breeders that upsets me. The reason is in my dealings with those people I have met some truly impressive and enjoyable people. Some of them I see barbed comments about from the clique you run with over and over and over and it bothers me.

At times it seems like intentional undermining of their goals and dreams so that those in your small circle see their dreams succeed, often at the unfair and outright cruel expense of others. One small example would be the thread here about the people in Canada looking for importers and talk immediately going to boasting about Pan Corp and basically denigrading and demeaning the quality of others who are buying from the EXACT same sources, and whom I know for fact have very special friendships with those breeders in Japan. So I just don't understand that type of petty and public undermining of other people's ventures, and it seems very much about seeing one small group's commercial ventures succeed and tanking every other effort that crops up by immediate and harsh badjacketing. Most of it done by people who just now in this thread repeatedly misassed me, my motives, and my identity. In other words not very reliable sources for judgemental opinions of others to begin with. I realize they are yoru friends and friends are a great thing to have in this life and a treasure everyone needs to try to keep.

Many of those who get dissed have invested all they have into their venture, years of hard work and every resource they have, and talk like that could literally destroy them before they get out of the gate well, and that my friend IS bullying, IS nazism, and IS conquistadorism in action and words. That sort of thing is the OPPOSITE of the economic principles the US constitution seeks to establlish, and is an enemy of everyone here imho in the long run. I like Stephen because he sees through all of that fog and haze and makes things fun and about koi again. Part of that for him may be the fun of banning people who irk him, oh well!

So although individual forums may have a few power misuse issues, the hobby and industry as a whole is facing a much larger and more dangerous monster of greed and conquistadorism. THAT is far more of a concern to me than a few bans here and there, but the effect on the industry's development as a whole and the effect of it on fair economic oppurtunity and development for all. Stephen's effect on those issue has been in my opinion absolutely beautiful and fair and respectful to everyone. SO I personally respect him as a wise business and community leader and I for one am glad he has gotten involved like he has and proud of the work he has done and way it has benefited the industry and many families and lives as a whole.

I respect you for your dedication to the hobby, and to the nature and health of these creatures, and your knowledge of biology, in particular the in depth knowledge of the vital organ of the koi's skin. However, I think you underestimate many others and also do not grasp many things that have great effects related to engineering views of things as vs. biology. Having read many threads for many years that is just what I have observed. I simply see Stephen's vision for things as healthier for the economy, the hobby's growth, and for fair oppurtunity for all while still giving due honor to Japanese breeders and generations of work and excellence.

Sorry for the long monologue, but this is an entire industry and it's development we are all collectively impacting, and I think more attention and credit needs to be paid to those adventuring into those things here domestically, without the denigrading to boost a few people's personal businesses that is clearly not even an accurate or fair assessment of their victims, not just once, but over and over and over and over.

[Tim Richards]

JR, as a UK ponder of almost 12 years and a member of the NI blog since its' inception, I have read all of your antics, capers, massive ego driven self promotions and attempted destruction and character assassination of anyone that dares to challage you. You always seem to attack the individual instead of the topic of the debate. I also have respected you and your knowledge for years but you have recently gone completely bonkers mate.

Most recently you posted childish attacks against your mentor, Peter Waddington. For the past decade or so, your head was so far up Peter's arse, that if he would have made a sharp right turn, he would have broken your bloody neck.

Most recently, your unprovoked attacks on Peter on the NI blog were despicable. I am glad to see that you finally asked Nigel to clean up your mouths' diarrhea spill that occured on aisle 5. Some of us still remember mate and you can not have that deleted by Nigel.

It is obvious to most of us that has been in the hobby for 10 plus years that your motives and promotions are what is best for James Reilly. A free Nexus here, a free or special price on a fish there, but when the gravy turns off, so does JR. You sir, should be very ashamed.

Regards

Tim Richards