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Old 12-24-2009   #171 (permalink)
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Towards building a hospital, or helping fund medicaid for the needy. Look into the projects before you speak!! How very selfish of them to spend money on things that actually help people. Much better to spend our money in iraq?!?!
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Old 12-24-2009   #172 (permalink)
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Yes Bob. Life is wonderful now that the Bamster Administration is running the show The housing market is just BOOMING again... except for that pesky "unexpected drop" of new home sales in November... Not to worry though... it was only an 11% drop And yes, some of the Banks are paying their "bailout money" back. Not with private loan revenues or anything like that mind you. They're making money by buying US debt on the cheap and selling it back at higher rates... It's the only profitability they can find in the "new economy". Even the Communist Chinese Government is upset with our "new economy" because our system is moving toward the one they used to have... It really must feel good to know that a Communist country is more capitalist than the Bamster...
But hey, not to worry. After all, the "caring and compassionate" crowd in D.C. is ready to provide "free healthcare" for all Pimp Daddy Obama, Madame Pelosi, and Pimpster Reid are turning the whole country into their own private brothel Every Congressman who votes for this mess is pimping out their constituents and "We the People" are the ones getting screwed Good liberals who vote for "change" are the hookers and those of us who have to pay the freight are stuck with being their "johns"
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Old 12-24-2009   #173 (permalink)
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Um, yes.

Actually I have friends that did similar stuff, power lifters. Back in the day it was steroid city in order to build muscle. It messed my friend up, but he got over it eventually.

According to them, one of the side effects of steroid use for this purpose is an overwhelming feeling of self satisfaction and self love. One of their favorite activities was to stand in front of a full length mirror and admire themselves.

Now, nobody would be happier to see genuine improvement in the economy and not just endless talking head stories on the toob telling me how much better things are, when they are not.

If/when such occurs, my unemployed friends get gainful employment again, I get to go back to working at what I want to do instead of what I must do, the barges return to the bayou, and other real signs of economic activity and not ghosts on tv, I'll take back what I said and vote for Obama's re-election.

Meanwhile I'm preparing for the coming revolution.

One of my eighty plus year old friends told me in his lifetime he's seen conservative presidents, liberal presidents, centrists presidents, etc. and he never feared for the survival of our way of life. Now he is fearful and the reason is Obama and his minions of supplicants and dishonest, conniving, cheating, contemptable, administration.

We (US) have NEVER had so much corruption at the top as we have now, and THAT is saying a lot. These "Czars" need to be tarred and feathered and run out of the country on a rail.

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I never used steroids ever. I did some drug tested shows, and some not drug tested. Had to see how I stood against the big boys. I always did very well. I had a few judges tell me I had the potential to be a pro...IF I would do what was neccessary. Which, I would not. I saw too many people get messed up from steroids and diuretics to even be tempted. Not my style at all. But..I did enjoy the ladies who liked bodybuilders..lol. The good old days I do consider getting back into it with the over 40 crowd...may happen one day, but not right now.

The economy will get better...I have no doubt of that at all. How you can complain about Obama corruption after what you have just seen for 8yrs borders on delusional. Wow...he is forcing health care down your throat. What are horrible thing...to try and provide reasonable health care to all US citizens. Terrible to try and fix the economy and create jobs. Weather or not you like Obama's policies...they have all been for the right reason. Even cash for clunkers and the 8k tax credit for home buyers was done for good reasons. Starting a war, wiretapping and giving the name of undercover agents are NOT done for any good reason. Neither is cutting medicaid services for the needy!!! This I saw first hand..and people truly suffered!! You better really look at this stuff again Brett...because you are pointing fingers at the wrong administration. 1yr of Obama did not make the problems we have now!!!
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Old 12-24-2009   #174 (permalink)
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Tell me Bob.
Who was the "Undercover Agent" whose identity was revealed by Bush? It wouldn't be the one whose hubby had that info published in "Who's Who" before it was ever in any newspaper would it?
And these "illegal wiretaps" you are so worried about. Name for me any or all Americans who were ever spied on with these wire taps Bob... Just one will do...
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The agent was Plame...revealed by cheneys office, in case you forgot!!! CNN just posted yesterday that the housing market jumped in nov....so, watch cnn and get a clue. This was directly because of Obama's 8k tax credit...what a great idea from a real administration!!! Would you know who's phone was tapped and why?? But, why should it be allowed...unless you like big brother!!!
Let me ask YOU some questions:
Did you vote for bush twice...I am curious?
Will you have the guts to give Obama credit when the economy is improved at the end of his terms?? Or..will you do what you always do...and try to give that credit to some nonsensicle conservative?
I have never seen anyone twist facts like you larry..really, no one. If Obama said the sky was blue..you would say it was green.
The name Plame....look it up..look up the issue...please, be honest. Your twisting real facts is a joke at this point!!

Good thing the voting public was on my side!!! They finally got tired of conservative drivel and got it right!! Go Obama!!!
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Tell me Bob.
Who was the "Undercover Agent" whose identity was revealed by Bush? It wouldn't be the one whose hubby had that info published in "Who's Who" before it was ever in any newspaper would it?...
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The agent was Plame...revealed by cheneys office, in case you forgot!!! ...
Yup, that's the one alright. The one who was not outed by Cheney's office, but by her husband... when HE posted her CIA resume in Who's Who...
And you might want to double check the whole "Cheney's office" thing there Bob. Fiztgerald found out early in his investigation that nobody in Cheny's office outed anybody That is why NOBODY was ever tried on those charges... because they were false You might want to check your "facts" a little closer.

Oh, BTW... "Last Nights" CNN report was superseded by TODAY'S housing report...
You know... The one with the 11% DROP.
Ooops. I guess CNN got it's little cart in front of the real economy's horse
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Towards building a hospital, or helping fund medicaid for the needy. Look into the projects before you speak!! How very selfish of them to spend money on things that actually help people. Much better to spend our money in iraq?!?!
Bob
The US currently spends $7,290 per person on health care. Double the amount of all modern industralized countries it is competing against at 17% of its GDP. This will soon mean that the US will be spending 9% of its GDP on health care. For that you get the worst health care for the simple reason that on an average a US citizen lives 3 years less. Lack of health care means that 45,000 needlesly die in the US yearly.
The current health care costs make it difficult for US companys to manufacture in the US.
There is difficulty in servicing the current debt I wonder how itis going to be serviced when intrest rates rise.
The US spends more on military than any other country partly because of free military aid to other countries.
All the above costs are no longer sustainable. I wonder what the solutions are.
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Larry..it is always funny that you say bush was not your man, yet always have information and fight hard as hell to defend his administration. This very well documented by every paper and news show in the country...but, it must be the liberal media. Only fox news must have the real answers!! You are a joke at this point larry...time to get real. do I need to play cut and paste from every news source in the country to prove you wrong? Here are a few....seriously, stop defending a pig like cheney. It only makes you look ridiculous. Are you ever going to see that administration for what it was...or is it better to live in denial??

From plame's husband himself:
The disinformation campaign to manipulate public opinion in favor of the invasion, the torture program, and the illegal exposure of a clandestine CIA agent—my wife, Valerie Plame Wilson—were linked events. In their desperate effort to gather material to whip up public support, Cheney and others resorted to torture, well known in the intelligence craft to elicit inherently unreliable information. Cheney & Co. then pressured the CIA to put its stamp of approval on a series of falsehoods—26 of which were inserted into Secretary of State Colin Powell’s speech before the United Nations Security Council. At the same time, Cheney was furiously attempting to suppress the true information that Saddam Hussein was not seeking yellowcake uranium in Niger. After I published the facts in an article in The New York Times in July 2003, Cheney tried to punish me and discredit the truth by directing the outing of a CIA operative who happened to be my wife.



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Exclusive: Cheney’s admissions to the CIA leak prosecutor and FBI

By murrayw Tuesday December 23, 2008 11:14am
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Vice President Dick Cheney, according to a still-highly confidential FBI report, admitted to federal investigators that he rewrote talking points for the press in July 2003 that made it much more likely that the role of then-covert CIA-officer Valerie Plame in sending her husband on a CIA-sponsored mission to Africa would come to light.
Cheney conceded during his interview with federal investigators that in drawing attention to Plame’s role in arranging her husband’s Africa trip reporters might also unmask her role as CIA officer.
Cheney denied to the investigators, however, that he had done anything on purpose that would lead to the outing of Plame as a covert CIA operative. But the investigators came away from their interview with Cheney believing that he had not given them a plausible explanation as to how he could focus attention on Plame’s role in arranging her husband’s trip without her CIA status also possibly publicly exposed. At the time, Plame was a covert CIA officer involved in preventing Iran from obtaining weapons of mass destruction, and Cheney’s office played a central role in exposing her and nullifying much of her work.
Cheney revised the talking points on July 8, 2003– the very same day that his then-chief of staff, I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, met with New York Times reporter Judith Miller and told Miller that Plame was a CIA officer and that Plame had also played a central role in sending her husband on his CIA sponsored trip to the African nation of Niger.
Both Cheney and Libby have acknowledged that Cheney directed him to meet with Miller, but claimed that the purpose of that meeting was to leak other sensitive intelligence to discredit allegations made by Plame’s husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, that the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence information to go to war with Iraq, rather than to leak Plame’s identity.
That Cheney, by his own admission, had revised the talking points in an effort to have the reporters examine who sent Wilson on the very same day that his chief of staff was disclosing to Miller Plame’s identity as a CIA officer may be the most compelling evidence to date that Cheney himself might have directed Libby to disclose Plame’s identity to Miller and other reporters.
This new information adds to a growing body of evidence that Cheney may have directed Libby to disclose Plame’s identity to reporters and that Libby acted to protect Cheney by lying to federal investigators and a federal grand jury about the matter.
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Towards building a hospital, or helping fund medicaid for the needy. Look into the projects before you speak!!

Hey Doctor Bob , Go read my Senator Thread I started yesterday (FIRST POST and YOU POSTED ON THE THREAD 2ND) . I knew what the Money was for ! Keep Up , Your making yourself look stupid .

But "YOU" don't get it anyway ! I really don't care what it was for or the amount ! It's that their own Senators had their hands out to get their Vote and it's all of us who Pay when they play these games . I'd understand a little if they had to Pay Off a Republican to get a Vote , but to get Back Doored from your own Party , Sorry thats Sad .

It's the "Game" Bob , the game Obama said wasn't going to happen under his watch that should piss you off no matter what party you support . You probably don't remember that because it was 14 months ago when Obama spoke about Pork "Game" . Hell you can't remember something you commented on yesterday .

If your Reply is going to talk about Bush , War & Iraq again don't bother . We all see you using those Cards everytime your back is against the wall . So don't Waste Our Time .
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I understand it all too well...he is the cycle as it will happen
we have a president named bush....we have a useless war, and the economy goes to hell.
Lets see, since Kuwait is an arab country the fact that someone ran it over is of no account in your book if I read your words correctly above . Since they are our ally and the industrial economies get significant amounts of oil from them you are an idiot for saying so.
a democrat gets in(Clinton) and we have no major wars...the economy soars and we have a record surplus with nice and low unemployment!! A wonderful time!!!
Yes a wonderful time in bosnia, I already pointed out how the peace dividend and the silicon valley as well as easy credit from the fed made it easy for Bill. All he had to do was sit on his hands as far as the economy goes. I wont give a man credit for doing nothing, you are such a democratic tool with this position, at least bring up something he accomplished, not something he had little or no responsibility for.

Another president named bush gets in...and we have another useless war!! The economy tanks even worse...heading into a recession..and towards a depression!! The record surplus heads to a record deficit....a complete failure this time.
You do remember 9/11 dont you kind of sets the tone for the next 8 years but that does not fit the democrats tool time line so it gets left out, how convenient for you.
Then..thank goodness another democrat gets in. The housing market is starting to improve. The bailouts are paying back...and the stock market is improving. We even care enough about the citizens to try and improve health care...although not one republican had the balls or brains to support it. We will again have a good economy....no thanks to the republicans at all!!!

I have 3 words for you to do a google on Mr Tool, Weimar Republic and Inflation. If your responses do not address the issues then you concede the point(s) I must assume.

Patterns are easy to see when you have a brain and your eye's are open!!
See if you can come up with something that sounds intelligent at least.
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