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    The end of most fishing?

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    Monday, March 8, 2010
    Updated: March 9, 1:59 PM ET
    Culled out
    By Robert Montgomery
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    The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters. This announcement comes at the time when the situation supposedly still is "fluid" and the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force still hasn't issued its final report on zoning uses of these waters.
    That's a disappointment, but not really a surprise for fishing industry insiders who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force. These angling advocates have come to suspect that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning.
    "When the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) completed their successful campaign to convince the Ontario government to end one of the best scientifically managed big game hunts in North America (spring bear), the results of their agenda had severe economic impacts on small family businesses and the tourism economy of communities across northern and central Ontario," said Phil Morlock, director of environmental affairs for Shimano.
    "Now we see NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access in America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other Big Green anti-use organizations, through an Executive Order by the President. The current U.S. direction with fishing is a direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting: The negative economic impacts on hard working American families and small businesses are being ignored.
    "In spite of what we hear daily in the press about the President's concern for jobs and the economy and contrary to what he stated in the June order creating this process, we have seen no evidence from NOAA or the task force that recreational fishing and related jobs are receiving any priority."
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    Fisheries In Danger

    Consequently, unless anglers speak up and convince their Congressional representatives to stop this bureaucratic freight train, it appears that the task force will issue a final report for "marine spatial planning" by late March, with President Barack Obama then issuing an Executive Order to implement its recommendations — whatever they may be.
    Led by NOAA's Jane Lubchenco, the task force has shown no overt dislike of recreational angling, but its indifference to the economic, social and biological value of the sport has been deafening.
    Additionally, Lubchenco and others in the administration have close ties to environmental groups who would like nothing better than to ban recreational angling. And evidence suggests that these organizations have been the engine behind the task force since before Obama issued a memo creating it last June.
    As ESPN previously reported, WWF, Greenpeace, Defenders of Wildlife, Pew Environment Group and others produced a document entitled "Transition Green" shortly after Obama was elected in 2008. What has happened since suggests that the task force has been in lockstep with that position paper.
    Then in late summer, just after he created the task force, these groups produced "Recommendations for the Adoption and Implementation of an Oceans, Coasts, and Great Lakes National Policy." This document makes repeated references to "overfishing," but doesn't once reference recreational angling, its importance, and its benefits, both to participants and the resource.
    Additionally, some of these same organizations have revealed their anti-fishing bias by playing fast and loose with "facts," in attempts to ban tackle containing lead in the United States and Canada.
    That same tunnel vision, in which recreational angling and commercial fishing are indiscriminately lumped together as harmful to the resource, has persisted with the task force, despite protests by the angling industry.
    As more evidence of collusion, the green groups began clamoring for an Executive Order to implement the task force's recommendations even before the public comment period ended in February. Fishing advocates had no idea that this was coming.
    Perhaps not so coincidentally, the New York Times reported on Feb. 12 that "President Obama and his team are preparing an array of actions using his executive power to advance energy, environmental, fiscal and other domestic policy priorities." Morlock fears that "what we're seeing coming at us is an attempted dismantling of the science-based fish and wildlife model that has served us so well. There's no basis in science for the agendas of these groups who are trying to push the public out of being able to fish and recreate.
    "Conflicts (user) are overstated and problems are manufactured. It's all just an excuse to put us off the water."
    In the wake of the task force's framework document, the Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation (CSF) and its partners in the U.S. Recreational Fishing & Boating Coalition against voiced their concerns to the administration.
    "Some of the potential policy implications of this interim framework have the potential to be a real threat to recreational anglers who not only contribute billions of dollars to the economy and millions of dollars in tax revenues to support fisheries conservation, but who are also the backbone of the American fish and wildlife conservation ethic," said CSF President Jeff Crane.
    Morlock, a member of the CSF board, added, "There are over one million jobs in America supported coast to coast by recreational fishing. The task force has not included any accountability requirements in their reports for evaluating or mitigating how the new policies they are drafting will impact the fishing industry or related economies.
    "Given that the scope of this process appears to include a new set of policies for all coastal and inland waters of the United States, the omission of economic considerations is inexcusable."
    This is not the only access issue threatening the public's right to fish, but it definitely is the most serious, according to Chris Horton, national conservation director for BASS.
    "With what's being created, the same principles could apply inland as apply to the oceans," he said. "Under the guise of 'marine spatial planning' entire watersheds could be shut down, even 2,000 miles up a river drainage from the ocean.
    "Every angler needs to be aware because if it's not happening in your backyard today or tomorrow, it will be eventually.
    "We have one of the largest voting blocks in the country and we need to use it. We must not sit idly by."

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    They can have my Fishing Poles when they Pry them from my Cold Dead Hands !

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    Heard some buzz about this idiocy today myself...
    Idiocracy on parade...again.

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    Destin's fishermen have been making all the noise they can in DC for a while now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEADACHE6 View Post
    They can have my Fishing Poles when they Pry them from my Cold Dead Hands !

    Mine too Troy, mine too!

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    Reminds me of a fishing trip with a buddy, several actually.....

    Upon arriving at the jetty for a day of rock crawling and redfishing, there big as Dallas was a billboard, on it in at least a dozen languages it said, "No Fishing."

    My buddy points to the sign and says, "We gonna fish here?"

    Of course I told him. How many places you been fishin' where there was a "No Fishing" sign that was a bad place to fish?

    Heck if it was a bad place to fish there'd be no need for the sign.

    We ended up over on the fourth street ferry landing, no sign, but still plenty of fish.

    Now they gonna make a huge "No fishin'" Zone. I can't wait!

    The battle between sport fishing and commercial fishing interests as well as "environmental kooks" will continue. However, I do not see a huge "no fishing" zone in the near future. Perhaps some areas, designated and supported by the fishermen themselves, will be set aside. Nobody supports the sustained fishing (and hunting) better, with more work and money, than those that actually find the time to enjoy and utilize the resource. Nobody.

    Like we've seen in the past, once a nut case group ends the sustainable use of a resource by those that support and sustain that resource, the resource eventually deteriorates and disappears. Nut case groups continue to prove they are incapable of taking care of the very things they espouse to care for.

    With fishing the single most popular participant sport in the US and most everywhere else, I do not see a few politicos and nut cases taking over. I actually hope Obama does try something stupid like this, just another nail in the political coffin for the elitists. The desired end result would be impeachment then imprisonment as a traitor for the Big O.

    Brett
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    With fishing the single most popular participant sport in the US and most everywhere else, I do not see a few politicos and nut cases taking over. I actually hope Obama does try something stupid like this, just another nail in the political coffin for the elitists. The desired end result would be impeachment then imprisonment as a traitor for the Big O.

    Brett[/QUOTE]

    I am a fisherman to I used to fish in Lake Ontario but 40 years ago eating the fish was stopped because of contamination so only sport fishing now.
    The great lakes contain 20% of the worlds water.
    We blame US industrial greed but we are just as much to blame.
    Finally after all these years something is going to be done. President Obama has pleged 2 Billion towards the clean up. So all fishermen should
    raise their glasses to the president.
    I dont know who will pay for this I am hopeing that JR and Larry do their share through taxes
    Regards
    Eugene

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    Take a deep breath and calm down, folks - this is as absurd as the canard of last year that that somehow the President wanted to ban the importation of animals. From ESPN (the same "source" cited in the first post) today:
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    By Steve Bowman
    Executive Editor ESPNOutdoors.com
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    Firestorms get started in a variety of ways, especially on politicized issues.
    ESPNOutdoors.com inadvertently contributed to a flare-up Tuesday when we posted the latest article in a series of stories on President Barack Obama's newly created Ocean Policy Task Force, a column written by Robert Montgomery, a conservation writer for BASS since 1985. Regrettably, we made several errors in the editing and presentation of this installment. Though our series has included numerous news stories on the topic, this was not one of them -- it was an opinion piece, and should have been clearly labeled as commentary.
    And while our series overall has examined several sides of the topic, this particular column was not properly balanced and failed to represent contrary points of view. We have reached out to people on every side of the issue and reported their points of view -- if they chose to respond -- throughout the series, but failed to do so in this specific column.
    This series started in October and has included several updates on how the creation of the task force and its actions could impact recreational anglers. ESPNOutdoors.com should have made it clear to all readers that this was part of a larger series, and -- even though this was Montgomery's opinion, and those of the sources quoted in the column -- we should have taken more care to fairly represent opposing arguments.

    We do feel it is our duty to cover issues surrounding outdoor sports to the best of our abilities, and given the nature of this task force and the potential impact on all fisherman, this was an appropriate topic to address for our audience. We take seriously the tenets of journalism that require we take an unbiased approach, and when we make mistakes in the presentation of a story or a column, it is our responsibility to admit them.
    Any confusion on that part rests entirely on my shoulders as the executive editor of this site.
    We have appended the original column to note that it was in fact a commentary, and we will institute more rigorous editing safeguards in order to prevent such issues in the future.


    Also see: snopes.com: Recreational Fishing Ban
    Lynda

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    Quote Originally Posted by lypope View Post

    LOl........I wish everyone would check Snopes before they post this kind of thing.
    I see outright lies on Facebook everyday......I just laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugeneg View Post
    ...President Obama has pleged 2 Billion towards the clean up. So all fishermen should
    raise their glasses to the president.
    I dont know who will pay for this I am hopeing that JR and Larry do their share through taxes
    Regards
    Eugene
    If the fool does sign off on this as he has indicated you won't need to worry about JR and I paying "our fair share". The IRS has recently appropriated a new batch of short barreled shotguns to enforce "voluntary" compliance with the tax code...

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