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Old 10-23-2005   #1 (permalink)
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I heard that one day before Momotero made their announcement, Brad Pitt and Angie Jolina were seen shoping and necking near the 150 ton display pond. Pitt was seen leaving with a 32" kohaku that he said was to be entered in some giant Koi Show on the East coast of US. That was all the details that were given . Brad was believed to have been picked up by a Lt. Dan and driven to the airport and whisked away with his prize koi. Now, Angie had not been seen since so Momotero had to fabricate a story, do some smoking and drinking, close the doors and turn the place upside down to find her. As of yesterday, Angie was spotted leaving Southern Japan with her own 38" kohaku named "Eagle", being closely guarded she only mentioned "I will show that $#8 of a *%$@^ how to win a show". Thats all I have to say about that.
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Old 10-24-2005   #2 (permalink)
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I heard the same story Kong but a little differently

I heard EA paid them to go there and drip their bodily love making fluids in the pond, knowing it would cause a khv outbreak. They immediately closed the greenhouses simply due to the stench left behind, causing other customers to faint from nauseau and fall into the pond and drown. Since they did not have nets large enough for people, they had to close the greenhouses. Since the bodily fluids were apparently there in excessive abundance, they also have had to close to checkall the ponds in a 3/4 mile radius.

I heard JR arranged the trip and felt it nescessary to visit there one more time before, just so he could remember the old Japan and feel once more entitled to attempt to nauseausly and nostalgiacally belittle others, with noone knowing exactly who he was trying to belittle??? Funny how for him it is always the 'momotaro supporters' who do not understand japan like him. "EA's Undercover Lover and How To Do the Pond Hover Like Angelina Jolie" should be his next book. Point is, khv is now out of control and the only way to stop it is to the eliminate human carriers.
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'Low rent' strikes again! LOLs


The true reason for my posts is always to provide perspective to the ‘shoot from the hip’ Internet gurus. Born of three years or less experience, these morons assume so much that it begs for perspective. You George, are an example of a poster who some how assumes you can really know the hobby by reading the Internet marketing and buying from local dealers on the East Coast. I honestly think you believe that living within the ‘commercial’ is ‘knowing’ the hobby? From where I’m sitting I can tell you- you’re clueless. Just a lot of buzz words and no real perspective
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yeah but you guys are going to soft on the rumor mill..... i actually once had the Childer Squire respond in a reinforcing manner when I stated that after the 9-11 bombing of the pentagon that a friend of mine's cousin that worked for catepillar was 'requested" to come clean up the rubble at the Pentagon since he had a "special clearance" designation.....and that while on one of his forced breaks he looked at the ground while sitting on the bulldozer's tracks, and he saw a memo that immediately got his atterntion as it had the word "koi" on it. he had recently gotten the Koi bug from me.
So he read the memo and it was about a "virus" that a leader "OB" (Osama) had developed and had his people smuggle across the Israeli Border and release in their burgeoning koi hobby...the memo stated that the act was one of bio-terrorism, and was meant to cripple the Israeli Economy.....

the reason I posted it was because back then there was a bunch of rumors on the net that people were putting out there and I felt that if I made a post that was so far above anything that could be believable then it would draw some light to the fact that rumors are just that rumors....little did i know how gullible anyone could be.
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Internet gurus--JR's real goal in life pubicly stated!!

Your post had several outright lies right in it you should be aware of oh oldjapan guru -

One- Where you got the 3 year number I do not know, maybe from your timeline of having gone without bathing?

Two-I learned about this hobby over twelve years in my own home, and prior to that helping my Korean neighbor keep his since I was about 5. I have watched these chats for almost a decade and never posted until about a year ago. You have been a condescending jerk to anyone who supported anything that could hurt an EA interest that whole time and have tried to degrade and humiliate every one of them publicly. THAT is called watching and gathering intel. A skill you could obviously use, rather than your innacurate gift of presumption.

Three- I have only ever purchased ONE item from an East Coast dealer. I will let you make an idiot of yourself guessing who, when, and what.

Four-Your only accurate comment so far is directed at the wrong person---I can tell you- you’re clueless

You do not know who I am, or who I am not. However your ten year habit of using chat forums to attempt to belittle anyone you thought you could is your only really reliable characteristic. Talk about living vicariously through an imaginary internet identity. You take the cake, but are very endearing nonetheless. You remind me of an old worn out teddy bear my brother had.

As for Japan, your knowledge is tourist deep. You embody everything the average Japanese welcome for financial reason but despise but do not know it. Pretending to 'know them' and posing as a guruish expert to the western world. All you are is a loud tourist trying to create a surfish industry for koi wiht your buddies, so your buddies can sell westerners stuff that costs alot and makes them feel fabulous. Your are like a soul surfer who works for a board maker buit doe snot tell anyone on the beach.

Guys like you had to keep quiet until the WW2 generation passed, otherwise they would have had to speak with your lame behind in person and you would have wet your undies.

Do you know what a watchman is JR, or a Firecontrolman? They learn by watching and observing, not by ads. I do watch ads, to see what folks are really up to. As for living them, that is you, living out the 70s koi mag stories and ads and EAs dreamy self promoting talk. I can hear the Beach Boys in the background every time you post. How you connected me to your rant I do not know.

How you connect anyone who likes Momotaro to your newly developed class of 'ignorant koi keepers' I do not know. As for the ad thing, keep your head low and your helmet on is my motto. Interesting how you attempt to categorize EVERYONE who likes Momo negatively, and yourself as an 'in the know guru'. How do you gather your intel JR? By internet personal info and google sat photos and from English tourists??? Truly sad and so yesterday. You do not even recognize a rabbit trail when you are ON it? If you would like to know more about who I am JR all you have to do is ask, I have nothing to hide. That way you won't look so foolish guessing. We could have been friends, I tried, but you do not seem very sociable this year.

I know you think your buddies have done wonders for the hobby and deserve their due, but really, does it nescessitate all this unfounded ugliness towards others? My post was intended to be a joke, must be hard to laugh for you right now though.

By the way, I heard Dupont wants to sue EA for stealing the Answer from them. I heard several ink manufacturers are a little hot under the collar about that one as well. Not to mention how Lee might be able to get a tidy sum for damages for their smear campaign on him. Let me give you some free advice old man, do not smear people unless you know them. And stop bringing your knife to gun fights.

Indeed, internet ads by 'east coast' people are now 'bad' and momotaro appreciaters are 'bad'. Hmmm who does that leave old watchman? I mean, other than the english and EA? Do tell, as we all anxiously await your next enlightening post that will undoubtedly belittle me and numerous others, and label us with swooshy titles and characteristics and no real grounding in fact. I cannot wait for the next verbal wonder you produce. I mean, how long do you think the masses will stay mesmerized by deceptive and subtly suggestive words of wondrous delusion and accusation spoken for personal exaltation and security?

It only takes one Jeremiah to undo 10,000 of Ahabs prophets. No matter how much of the king's money they have.
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Old 10-24-2005   #6 (permalink)
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I made a mistake I wrote stop bringing your knife to gun fights

when I should have written "Stop bringing your knife to Far Infrared Ray Millimeter Gun fights"---my bad

There is a thing called facts and a thing called learning and manipulating by ads, Facts do not seem to be your strong suit.

I did recently see some sattelite photos of some canes headed your way JR. They oddly just seem to keep missing us.

I sense you would really like to know what my commercial interestsd are JR. Answer the IM I sent you a couple months ago instead of resorting to chat forums assaults and I will tell you. Like I said, I have nothing to hide and it will probably make you laugh for being so reactionary to me.
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"JR. I'd like to introduce you to JG.....JG, JR."

<---nods and then moves outta the way
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aaahuh? OK? Well I guess I've been told off properly? Mind you, I followed very little of that rant, but I'll consider myself put in my place! LOLs


-Who are you? I thought you were Jungle George from PR. If you tell me you are really Tewa using another pen name I'll believe you!
-I ignored your IM and now your feelings are hurt? What IM? When?
-Not sure about the EA reference? I don't own their filters or media??
-The rest? Just to cryptic to decode, I'm afraid. But I get the strong impression you don't like me! Is THAT possible????

Best of luck in the future jungle George. My best to your Korean neighbor as well--

JR

( wow, THAT was a weird one?!)
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What? Missed my IM? My rant was almost as bad as trying to figure out who you were slamming in yer last 30 posts. At least this one is clear.

Why then I will send you the IM again partner. It is still in my 'Sent' box marked as unread. Very good verbal foilage on the cryptic suggestion tho. Very good. As for th EA thing, everyone know that who has been around for more than a few months JR. I mean, really, you can't hide that elephant, better to just dress it up in a pink tutu. And no, I am not tewa, Tewa has kind of disappeared, I hope he is ok. He moved then dropped off the radar for a while right after the khv news. Let me know if you hear from him plz.

And no my feelings were never hurt about the IM JR. I figured you had your reasons. It really didn't keep me up at night. Imagining you with an elephant in a pink tutu might make it hard to sleep though. I will try to think of Momotaro kohakus instead, there we go, a much less disturbing image.
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Interesting! So you think I'm somehow involved in the EA business? Now that IS interesting! What pray tell, gives you this idea? I have no EA filter units, no media and several years back bought an answer unit at full price. Bought the other one I own used. So HOW do I have an EA interest- please explain.
In truth, I own more Bacteria house than Kaldnes ( that would be 100 pounds or so of BH and ZERO pounds of kaldnes!)

As for the tourist stuff- wrong again! Been going once or twice a year for 15-16 years now. I've gone as collector, buyer, Tourist, koi show visitor, on personal business, to ZNA meetings and even judged and shadow judged a few koi shows. I've won a few significant awards at koi shows over there and have had a ten year plan to study breeders in the North and the South as well as judge their shows, compete in their shows and learn about the broker business over there ( mostly Chiba and Komachi City). I also wanted to buy koi to grow out there to better learn the range of possibilities, the limits of the mud pond and the benefits of teh mud pond.
I've had frequent visits by Japanese to my home here in the states as a result of this time spent in Japan. Marusada stayed for a week with his wife, Kato came and stayed over night twice, Takada came for breakfast one day as did Toru and Tasi ( Taiwan). I've been the lone caucasian at a well know breeders private family dinner during Harvest celebration, the last foreigner to spend a day with Dr Kuroki before he passed away ( I will always treasure the signed and wax seal he placed on some personal correspondance and his final book of his life). Perhaps the most touching experience I have had as a result of my travels to befriend these strange people occurred just after 9/11 attacks. When they heard about the attact, a few of my friends in Japan got together and placed a call to New York to see if I was alright as I had taken them their went they came to visist me and they assumed I also worked in the world trade center where I took them to dinner. I was very touched.
I also got involved with a young breeder/ dealer out of Chiba who wanted to import used corvettes to Japan! That was wild! Never knew how complicated Japanese import laws were! I've traveled with wholesale buyer only groups in which I was the only amateur and it was an amazing learning experience. I acted as an advisor to more than a few buying 2 and 3 million yen fish.
So if you insist on trying to reduce me to one of those junket goers , I suggest you think twice.
As for my referring to old koi magazines so often as an explanation of where my 'koi depth' starts and ends- I get that a lot. It seems to make others more comfortable in explaining how it is I know what I know. It is true, I have an extensive library on koi and much of it is based in early Rinko and Nichirin magazines. But if you look closer, you will notice I am also an author in many of those magazines- US, Japanese and British. I also had a small contribution in K2K. Our local magazines ( KOI USA and MAKC ) have a more than a few articles written by yours truly. So I am emersed in this hobby and on both sides of it- author and student, expert and beginner. It's all part of my personal journey in this life time hobby.
In the area of koi themselves, I have finished or grown out 5 grand and reserve champions, numerous best of size and best of variety. I have a best of size in the All Japan and a best baby in the ZNA All Japan. I won the first Koi America when it was sponsored by Shinkokai with a Hiroi Seiji sanke. Won best male in size at the All Japan and that is one of the few male gosanke that is on the cover of Rinko that I can think of? Won AKCA's fish of year award for MAKC.
On the 'contribution to the hobby side' I've been a regional rep to AKCA, a VP of the entire club, a representative in Japan at a ZNA district meeeting, a show chairman of a very large koi show more than once, a founder of the first health hot line for koi, an author, a planner of an AKCA seminar, A ZNA judging seminar organizer, trained hobbyists to inject fish/treat fish, given dozens of public talks, awarded friendship awards to members of at least 25 clubs, was head of the AKCA KHV steering committee, was a member of the three man committee that rewrote the AKCA bylaws, as an advisor to the AKCA health program, was a contributor to two of the AKCA instruction booklets on koi health and diseases---
On the Judging front, I think I'm at around 52 shows judged now? I'm AKCA and ZNA certified. Judged in America, Europe and Asia. I'm most proud of doing the Oita show , one of the oldest shows in Japan and the home club of ZNA founder, Dr Kuroki.

So my friend, call me a simple tourist if you like. And it is true, I have no Korean next door neighbor, but still, I think the resume is solid?

JR
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