Moderator hints At the true reason board owner won GC

[luke frisbee]

On another koi uke:board,
Savannah Robinson, a moderator at Koiphen.com posted this assessment of what is "proved" when a koi wins at a show:

That wouldn't prove anything... just proves who had the most contacts with the Judges....
sorry, cynical in my old age...

And as I went to a major show about 17 months ago where a newbie that had bought about half the motel rooms for his cheering section and evne paid for a "war room" for his people to go drink a wobbly pop, and talk up his fish...and this newbie blatantly promoted the fact that he was going to the show and he was going to buy top quality fish from japan and that they were big money koi from Japan and thereby he did knowingly affect the outcome of that show by buying the show's board, massing his cheerleading club to create a buzz about his koi, and influencing the judges through his website....
Little did I know one of his own Moderators would become so bold as to insinuate he had done such.

[cindy]

Lukie, why dredge up the past? Its over. If you miss us, ask if you can come back. You seem to behave at Koishack.

Sindee

[luke frisbee]

Wait...LOL....
um I miss YOU.
This isn't about the Epher...it is about how koi judges in fact Do NOT choose each others koi because of the fact that they know each other.
otherwise the Epher couldn't have won all the awards,,for her to say what she said makes St Ephen look bad as well?

[cindy]

awww you miss me? you know you have an intelligent, fun side and i keep up with your posts on the boards even if you do cook and eat your koi.

the kohaku stephen showed in orlando is a beautiful koi and deserved the honor. would you not buy better koi if you could afford it? i would. of course i'd need a new pond and a guard. i look at his pictures of the koi now and the colors are bright and beautiful. not bad for someone thats been in the hobby for a short time. i've done it 20+ years and i'm still learning.

Whether or not you and stephen mend your friendship and i hope you do, you have to admit stephen has learned alot and helped alot of people. i got my KHA (koi health advisors) certification. I couldn't have done it without help from the people on that board. I would have quit the first module.

Get over the stephen thing. accept that you and him are different people and have different ideas. Apparently you still want the friendship or you wouldn't mention him so often and check in to see what he's doing.

You know a simple email would start a conversation.

[cindy]

beside that with the internet, we know who owns what fish. how do you judge with that?

[luke frisbee]

sin dee!
A friendship with the Saint...I tried that..you know being honest. I was the very first person to tell him his koi sucked, back when he had Feo and feolito. he dismissed me then, until he went to AFKAPS on my reccomendation and actually saw a real koi...and then when he was drunk and sitting alone in the hallway he spoke honestly (I blame the honesty on the liquor), and said I was right and he would get new koi.
Everytime I offered help he would mangle what i said and then do it...Like his new Lakeluke...double pond was my first idea but in the front yard....the big pond near the house would just have been deepened and then flow under the driveway to a larger pond lower in the yard. He would have still had a pool. tell me did he actually take my advice and quit buying all different colored rocks and just settle on a couple of complimentary colors?
The truth is He doesn't want an honest person near him if the truth is not to his liking.

[luke frisbee]

Savannah
Did the "Judge" of KP Kangaroo court take you into private chambers...
let us know the Spin he, err , I mean YOU put on his trophy harvest at the CFKS less than 18 months ago...
Let me guess...when someone you like wins it is Not because of influence or bias, but when someone you don't like wins it is because the judges were influenced.
Sounds like your mind is entering into an geriatric condition; You are thinking like a child and youth left you long ago...

[luke frisbee]

WAIT, before this thread is closed....
Savannah,
is the reason you have not replied because your Post was undefendable and ranks up there with a braggart's poorly chosen length of 40.25 inches.
Congratulations, you have found people of similar thoughts and actions.
Birds of a feather flock together.

[Brian]

Guys, come on now...stop it. Just stop it. If there was some underlying argument here, I'd be happy to let you hammer it out and I wouldn't bother sticking my beak in. This is no more than a two-way personal attack fest, and I for one am sick of it.

If you both feel compelled to publicly drag each other through the mud, do us all a favor and pick up the phone to do it directly.

[cindy]