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Old 02-05-2008   #111 (permalink)
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Herd, flock, school, group, collection, clan, gang, etc... In the end, does it even really matter? It's your Koi, you paid good $$$ for 'em, and you have a right to call 'em whatever you want! This really is just semantics and, IMO, a pretty lame topic to waste time arguing about. Props to Jim for moving this topic outside...
my point is different than your when posting this question... it is not a personal question whether what I call my koi, my kids or you call your koi your herd... it does not waste my time a bit my friend even though I am a very busy man;-))

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Herd, flock, school, group, collection, clan, gang, etc... In the end, does it even really matter? It's your Koi, you paid good $$$ for 'em, and you have a right to call 'em whatever you want! This really is just semantics and, IMO, a pretty lame topic to waste time arguing about. Props to Jim for moving this topic outside...
it's already in Outside.

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[quote=dinh;104995]my point is different than your when posting this question... it is not a personal question whether what I call my koi, my kids or you call your koi your herd... it does not waste my time a bit my friend even though I am a very busy man;-))

It just wasted time of everone but you so hope that makes you happy . So posts that are trivia should be posted on the outside file in the first place as time is wasted trying to find posts that have been overiden by trivia .
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It just wasted time of everone but you so hope that makes you happy . So posts that are trivia should be posted on the outside file in the first place as time is wasted trying to find posts that have been overiden by trivia .
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aha, I saw many folks visited this thread..... I saw other also interesting in this question as well such as JR. So you don't have to waste your time for this thread.. Just skip it for not wasting for time;-))

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What is it with people this time of year? Cabin fever or what?

Dinh asked a perfectly good question in an attempt to help his 3rd grade child utilize the proper verbiage when referring to a group of koi. Trivial? Who cares if it was or not or whether anyone took offense when they should not have. Its about learning and in this case for a young child who shows interest in their dad's hobby. For those that took it in any other way than that I would say you are missing the boat when it comes to learning and sharing the hobby with others.

(shaking head) Come on spring and let these people out.

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So people may think it is a waste. But it is also educational remember proper grammar and proper usage of words. English is a very broad language.
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could be because the Giants kicked some butts yesterday or maybe because Hillarious is losing the national lead on the presidential nomination race.

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What is it with people this time of year? Cabin fever or what?

Dinh asked a perfectly good question in an attempt to help his 3rd grade child utilize the proper verbiage when referring to a group of koi. Trivial? Who cares if it was or not or whether anyone took offense when they should not have. Its about learning and in this case for a young child who shows interest in their dad's hobby. For those that took it in any other way than that I would say you are missing the boat when it comes to learning and sharing the hobby with others.

(shaking head) Come on spring and let these people out.

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Thanks, Steve! I completely agree; Dinh just wanted to post a question to help him educate his beautiful little daughter who is learning to appreciate koi as her daddy does.

Here's my thought on the original question - no internecine koi board politics implied or intended: I've never cared for the term "herd" for koi - it seems inelegant to me and relates more to cattle, IMHO. I don't like "collection" because it seems impersonal and doesn't carry the feeling and emotion I want to convey. I guess I just refer to my koi as "koi." If I had to give them a descriptive term it would be "school" even though they don't really school most of the time, but that generally refers to fish so that's what I'd use, if I had to use anything.
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I just call mine water pigs....of course when I'm telling someone all about them I refer to them as my babies..Since we don't actually have human kids..... then all of our pets tend to be referred to as our babies ..Hey if you can get a 3rd grader interested in anything other than video games...then I say you have accomplished a lot....Its nice to see a daughter is interested in her daddy's hobby....
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Animal Group/Collective Names

aardvark: aarmory
albatross: rookery
alligator: congregation
alpaca: flock, herd
ant: colony, nest, army, swarm, bike
antelope: herd, cluster
ape: shrewdness, troop
ass: pace, drove, herd, coffle
auk: colony, flock, raft
baboon: troop, flange, congress, tribe
badger: cete, colony, set, company
barracuda: battery
bass: shoal, fleet
bat: colony, cloud
bear: sleuth, sloth, slought, maul
beaver: family, lodge, colony
bee: colony, grist, hum, swarm, hive, cluster
beetle: swarm
bird (general): fleet, parcel, dissimulation, flight, volery, cast, flock, aviary
bison: herd, troop, gang, thunder
bittern: sedge, flock, siege
bloodhound: sute
boar: singular, sounder, herd
bovine: herd
buffalo: gang, troop, herd, obstinacy
bullfinch: bellowing
bullock: drove
butterfly: rabble, flight, swarm
buzzard: wake, flock
camel: flock, train, caravan, herd
caribou: herd
cat: clowder, clutter, pounce, cluster, colony, glorying, destruction (wild cats)
caterpillar: army, nest
cattle: drove, herd, bow, bunch, draft, drift, mob
cheetah: coalition
chicken: brood, clutch, flock, peep, hatching, battery
chimpanzee: cartload
chinchilla: colony
clam: bed, flaccidity
cockroach: intrusion, swarm
cod: lap, school
colt: rake, rage
coot: cover
cow: herd, drove, pack, team
coyote: pack, rout
crab: cast
crane: sedge, siege, flock, herd
cricket: orchestra
crocodile: bask, nest, congregation, float
crow: murder, horde, parcel, hover, muster
deer: herd, leash, bevy, game, quarry, bunch, mob, parcel
dog: gang, legion, kennel, pack (wild), litter (young)
dolphin: team, school, pod, herd
donkey: drove, herd, pace
dove: dule, duet, flight, troop
duck: brace, flock, gaggle, paddling, team, raft, badling, bunch, waddling
eagle: convocation, brood, aerie
eel: swarm, bed. draft, wisp, knot
elephant: herd, host, flock, parade, memory
elk: gang, herd
falcon: passager, cast
ferret: business, cast
finch: charm, chirm, trembling, trimming
fish (general): school, shoal, draft, nest, cast, draught, run, catch, drift, haul
flamingo: stand, flamboyance
fly: business, hatch, swarm, community, cloud, grist
flying fish: glide
fowl: plump
fox: leash, skulk, earth, troop
frog: army, colony, froggery, knot
gerbil: horde
giraffe: tower, troop, corps, herd, group, stretch
gnat: cloud, horde, swarm, plague
gnu: herd
goat: tribe, trip, flock, herd
goldfinch: charm, chattering, drum, troubling, vein
goldfish: troubling
goose: flock, gaggle, skein, line, wedge, nide
gorilla: band
grasshopper: cloud, cluster
greyhound: gallop, leash
grouse: covey, pack, brace, drumming
guinea pig: group
gull: colony, pack
hamster: horde
hare: down, husk, leap, , leash, flick, kindle, drove, warren
hawk: cast, kettle, boil, leash, mews, aerie
hedgehog: nest, array, prickle
hen: brood, battery, parcel, roost, mews
heron: siege, sedge
herring: army, glean, shoal
hippopotamuses: bloat, pod, herd, huddle
hog: drift, drove, herd
hornet: nest, bike, swarm
horse: harras, herd, pair, team, stud, field, mob, troop
hound: cry, mute, pack, kennel
hummingbird: charm, chattering, drum, hover, troubling
hyena: cackle, clan
impala: herd
jackrabbit: husk
jellyfish: smack, brood, smuth, smuck, fluther
kangaroo: mob, troop, herd
kitten: kindle, kendle, litter, intrigue
lark: ascension, exaltation, bevy, flight
lemur: group
leopard: leap, prowl
lice: flock
lion: pride, tribe, sault, sowse
llama: herd
locust: host, plague, swarm, cloud
louse: colony, infestation, lice
mackerel: school, shoal
magpie: tiding, gulp, murder, charm, tittering, flock
mallard: sord, brace, puddling, flush
manatee: herd
marten: richness
minnow: shoal, steam, swarm
mole: labor, company, movement
monkey: troop, barrel, tribe, cartload
moose: herd
mosquito: scourge, swarm
mouse: nest, colony, harvest, horde, mischief
mule: barren, pack, span, rake
nighthawk: kettle
nightingale: watch, flock, route, match
orangutan: buffoonery
ostrich: flock
otter: romp, bevy, lodge, family, raft
owl: parliament, stare
ox: yoke, team, drove, herd, nye
oyster: bed, hive, cast, culch
parrot: company, flock, prattle
partridge: covey, bew
peacock: muster, ostentation, pride
penguin: colony, rookery, parade, parcel
pheasant: bouquet, nest, nide, nye, brood, covey
pig: drove, litter, drift, flock, hoggery, herd, sounder
pigeon: flight, loft, flock, dropping
plover: congregation, wing, leash
polar bear: aurora, pack
polecat: chine
pony: string
porcupine: prickle, family
porpoise: school, crowd, herd, pod
possum: passel
prairie dog: coterie, town
quail: bevy, covey, drift
rabbit: colony, nest, warren, bevy, bury, drove
racoon: nursery, mask
raptor: cauldron, kettle
rat: horde, mischief, rabble
raven: unkindness, congress, conspiracy, parliament
reindeer: herd
rhinoceros: crash, herd
rook: building, shoal, congregation, pack, parliament
salmon: run, bind, gib, school, shoal
sardine: family
scorpion: bed, nest, colony
sea horse: herd
seal: pod, herd, school, trip, rookery, harem, team
shark: shiver, school, shoal
sheep: drove, flock, herd, drift, fold, mob, pack, trip
skunk: stench, surfeit
snail: escargatoire, rout, walk
snake: bed, knot, den, pit, nest, slither
snipe: walk, wisp
sparrow: host, flight, quarrel, tribe
spider: cluster, clutter, venom
squirrel: dray, scurry, colony
starling: murmuration, cloud, chattering, clutter
stork: mustering, flight
swallow: flight, rush, swoop
swan: bevy, wedge, flock, game, team, ballet, regatta
swine: drift, sounder, herd
swordfish: flotilla
termite: colony
tiger: streak, ambush, hide. ambush
toad: knot, nest, knob, lump
tortoise: creep
trout: hover, leash, troup
turkey: rafter, posse, gang, dole, flock, raffle
turtle: bale, bevy, nest, dule, turn
turtle dove: pitying
toucan: durante
viper: nest, den
vulture: wake
wallaby: mob
walrus: pod, herd, huddle
wasp: nest, knot, bike, swarm, colony, pail
weasel: pack, gang, sneak
whale: gam, herd, grind, pod, shoal, school, mob
wild boar: sounder
wolf: pack, rout, route, horde
wombat: mob, warren
woodcock: fall, covey, plump
woodpecker: descent, gatling
worm: bed, bunch, clew
wren: herd
yak: herd
zebra: herd, cohorts, crossing, stripe
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