WhatVariety would you say this fish is,???

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by Super Kindai Mike, I can not see signs/evidences of Ochiba' blood in the fish... We can find a blackish line in main bone of dorsal fin and tail fin among Asagi, Soragoi and Ochiba....

Finally................a voice of reason. It has absolutley no Ochiba in it.

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by JosephandGabby Looks like a doitsu lemon hariwake to me...albiet a poor example.

It is a poor example of a doitsu lemon hariwake because...............it is not one. Actually it is a bad picture. The quality of this Koi is quite nice.

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrbradleybradley ayawakaba BB

............:confuse d:

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by PapaBear While it does seem to have commonality with either a Lemon Hariwake or Lemon Ochiba (and I can definitely say I'd never heard of one until now...) I can confidently say that it dang sure ain't any kind of Kigoi. (Which part of yellow all over more than anywhere else did they not understand) It does appear to have some lateral patterning, but I don't know if that would tip the scale as to definition...

Ooops.................sorry but it is a kind of Kigoi. Yes it is.............really, would I kid you.

[JanT]

Bad picture.
No metallic from my view.
Kigoi.......NOT.
maybe a gin rin ki shusui.
good quality (?) does not show

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by Nancy M. I am curious, if I am just plain stupid, and don't know my varities. Can you all tell me what variety you think this fish is... JUDGES please comment

Hi Nancy,

This is something I bought from Jirosuke while I was pulling some Kigoi out of a tank. I have never seen anything like it before either but it has the same quality of yellow as the other Kigoi I bought.
Since I was standing next to the breeder, or in this case the grower of the Koi, I though I would ask him. He told me that it was a Gin Rin Doitsu Kigoi. Morfe specifically than that it is called a "Koyo". I don't know if that is the correct spelling but a "Koyo" is a Doitsu Kigoi with a pattern. This one just happens to have Gin Rin on it scales so itg is a Gin Rin Doitsu Kigoi.

I sold this to Brad at the San Diego Koi Show. Brad, you have a Gin Rin Doitsu Kigoi with a pattern. Don't let anyone tell you differently.

It might just be easier to call it a "Koyo".

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by JanT Bad picture. No metallic from my view. Kigoi.......NOT. maybe a gin rin ki shusui. good quality (?) does not show

Kigoi.............YES. I am going by what the breeder told me.

[ppp]

From my limited knowledge, Gin Rin refers to shiny reflective scales, and Doitsu refers to a smooth scaleless fish. How can a Doitsu fish be Gin Rin at the same time? I thought not, but maybe I'm wrong. I thought a metallic Doitsu fish is called Kin Doitsu, not Gin Rin.

[Russell Peters]

Quote: Originally Posted by ppp From my limited knowledge, Gin Rin refers to shiny reflective scales, and Doitsu refers to a smooth scaleless fish. How can a Doitsu fish be Gin Rin at the same time? I thought not, but maybe I'm wrong. I thought a metallic Doitsu fish is called Kin Doitsu, not Gin Rin.

Yes, the few scales it does have do have Gin Rin. Thus the Gin Rin part. It is not a metallic Koi.

[JasPR]

kigoi, not. Ginrin doitsu ochiba, yes. JR