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    New Pond Design: Blocks and Liner?

    Please clarify something for me....

    If I were to build a block pond, say 4-5000 gals, could it be lined with epdm?

    For some reason, I seem to recall reading somewhere that if one were to build a block pond, it should not be lined with epdm liner (and preliner) because the weight of the water against liner and block would cause the liner to become weak in places and rip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoiKisses View Post
    Please clarify something for me....

    If I were to build a block pond, say 4-5000 gals, could it be lined with epdm?

    For some reason, I seem to recall reading somewhere that if one were to build a block pond, it should not be lined with epdm liner (and preliner) because the weight of the water against liner and block would cause the liner to become weak in places and rip.
    Yes,
    You can use Liner with a block walled pond. One suggestion however is to affix (use Liquid Nail) some carpet remnants to pad the sides (also helps with insulation). You can check with some local apartment complex(es) about remnants since most recart apartments periodically throughout the year.

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    Cool! No problem with putting a liner (and a liner for the liner) against the blocks.

    Thanks Steve.

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    I would go to a local carpet store, every day they have carpet to give away........search for the softest stuff with NO STAPLES in it. Some carpet guys get a new do-fast staple gun and have a blast.......

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    No problems at all with a liner in a concrete block pond. That's how I build all of my ponds. Carpet is the best underlayment in the world, and it's free. Put the fuzzy side toward the liner.

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    I put in two layers of foam insulation board and offset the seams between the layers. They I put a layer of Tyvek (house wrap). Last was the EPDM liner. It is a good cost effective way to do a pond. Ours is 8" deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCA View Post
    Ours is 8" deep.


    Went all out huh...................but I thought you said ponds needed to be minimum 5 1/2 feet deep.





















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    have you considered Xypex Corporation

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrseed View Post
    I would go to a local carpet store, every day they have carpet to give away........search for the softest stuff with NO STAPLES in it. Some carpet guys get a new do-fast staple gun and have a blast.......
    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaGirl View Post
    No problems at all with a liner in a concrete block pond. That's how I build all of my ponds. Carpet is the best underlayment in the world, and it's free. Put the fuzzy side toward the liner.

    Quote Originally Posted by MCA View Post
    I put in two layers of foam insulation board and offset the seams between the layers. They I put a layer of Tyvek (house wrap). Last was the EPDM liner. It is a good cost effective way to do a pond. Ours is 8" deep.
    Thanks MstrSeed, CarolinaGirl, and MCA --- sounds like a winner to me !

    Quote Originally Posted by mstrseed View Post


    Went all out huh...................but I thought you said ponds needed to be minimum 5 1/2 feet deep.
    Ohhh -- you don't say ?..... and I was going to do 8" as well ---



    Quote Originally Posted by Mississauga Ponder View Post
    have you considered Xypex Corporation
    No.

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    Natch...I typoed the depth. The depth is indeed 8 feet deep.

    Would never build a shallower koi poind again if I have a choice. Remember these are riverine carp.

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