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    Jumbo bighatbulls's Avatar
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    das Pump, Kaput!

    For the last week my pond has been without its pump. We came up with a creative solution for keeping the pond some what filtered and tossed in a bubble stone. We also quit feeding the fish. Now that it is payday I need to find a pump.

    The pond holds about 800 gallons. The pump we had was a Lowes branded 32-3500gph, we toned this pump down by adding a a tee fitting and a valve. This also gave the fish a nice strong current to swim against. Alas, after 1 year of service, it died.

    This is what I want,

    Something that will turn the water over in the pond at least twice an hour
    Somthing that doesn't have to be in the pond to move water
    Something that I can easily make a current with
    Lastly something that will be able to handle the upgrades we plan on installing (aqua art retro bottom drain, no niche skimmer, and leaf catcher)

    I am sort of thinking along the lines of a CalPumpTorpedo. Any suggestions?

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    Best small pump for the money is Pondmaster Mag drive pumps made by Danner. They are very cheap to run and will run forever. I have several that I have been running 24/7 for over 10 years now. They are called submersibles, but since they are mag drive they don't get hot and can be run as external pumps too.

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    Kaput! Heilig Sheise Fledermause Mann

    I looked at those little Cal Pond pumps for a water garden some years ago. Then I read a bunch of reviews on their performance, durability, power consumption, etc... and changed my mind

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    I am the proud new owner of a pondmaster mag 1800gph pump. It should be here in 10 days or less. I hope our cool weather keeps up till then .

    Thanks for the recomend CarolinaGirl ! Thanks for talking me out of the torpedo PapaBear !

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    Pondmaster without question---Cal pumps have issues with durability, specs and customer support.

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    YOU got your butt saved!
    Calpumps have a slick self-made image.
    I wanted one when i was new to the hobby....I would have bought one too if I had the money.
    then you learn.....Thankfully I learned cuz of others on this one

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    120VAC pumps in water are not the best idea. You run the risk of them shorting (calpumps are famous for that) and they not energy effecient. Also I have no idea how you would use an pump in the pond inconjunction with a retro BD.

    Use an external centrificial pump (W Lim Wave, Sequence, Evolution) or other good brand and you probably want their smallest models. Mount the pump outside the pond...ideally below pond water leve (as in filter pit). Use flex pipe from pump into pond. Put a check valve on pipe at the pond end so the pipe will hold a prime. Put a screen over the end of the checkvalve to prevent fish or large debis from be sucked in. Route output of pump to filter.

    Be careful as you running the risk of wasting money. Every dollar bandaiding a pond design...may not be a good investment in the long term.
    Koi keeping is not a belief system; it is applied science with a touch of artistry.

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    This thread is going to be considered as into evolution of bighatbulls and Dr. Creosote's Pond 1.

    This was my estimate of the planned upgrades to the pond.

    Aqua Art Leaf Catcher 42.00 Aqua Art
    No Niche SKimmer 79.00 Aqua Art
    Retro BD 77.00 Aqua Art
    Bulk Head Fittings(2) 17.90 Home Depot
    30 feet of 1 1/2 ABS 11.34 Home Depot
    valves(2) 19.88 HomeDepot
    Long 90(12) 26.52 Home Depot
    PVC tee 1.26 Home Depot

    However I got online and found some better prices for the No-Niche and BD.

    Mystic Koi had the best price so far on the no-niche skimmer @ 64.67
    I can get a Tetra Vacume drain for under 30 bucks on eBay.

    The plumbing is an anniversary gift plus ten bucks thanks to my folks.

    more later

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    The pump arrived today! I was surprised at the weight of the pump , my Lowes pump had more gph (new pump is 1800 old pump was @3200) but was lighter. Again thanks everyone for your 2 cents worth, I will post again once everythign is hooked up and working.

    I bet Spike and Spot are going to apreciate not living like a bunch of goldfish.

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    Pump hooked right up to the remnants of our old system, Fish are happier, but lot of debris in pond. We've been haveing wind, and the olive and pecan trees are pollenating. BLAH! Monday I order the next phase of upgrades, about 125 dollars, maybe my pond will be considered normal...

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