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nguyen4 · 01-10-2008

hello kb member , last night on my research for my filter ( i plan for my new pond) i find out a discuss about Bakki shower but it happen stop at page 36 or 37 .. i didn't know what happen after that ? i feel likely everybody don't want to talk about it at this forum i shouldn't not bring it up but i just want some answer for it . Can someone give me that? Last page i read it talking about used lava rock or bio ball for it, is that working? i try to get some ceramic media but my dealer don't have it. if someones have a good shower can share with me on that ones .thank you

gspotmc · 01-10-2008

[quote=nguyen4;100181]hello kb member , last night on my research for my filter ( i plan for my new pond) i find out a discuss about Bakki shower but it happen stop at page 36 or 37 .. i didn't know what happen after that ? i feel likely everybody don't want to talk about it at this forum i shouldn't not bring it up but i just want some answer for it . Can someone give me that? Last page i read it talking about used lava rock or bio ball for it, is that working? i try to get some ceramic media but my dealer don't have it. if someones have a good shower can share with me on that ones .thank you[/quote Try calling Majestic koi and look for Rob. I heard that he has a shipment of BH coming in. Try it you won't be sorry.
Michael

Steve Nguyen · 01-10-2008

it can be noisy so check out in personal first. majestic koi should have one setup and running. Stop by and check it out. Unless space is an issue, else I like the conventional filtering instead of bakki shower.

Steve

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Originally Posted by nguyen4

hello kb member , last night on my research for my filter ( i plan for my new pond) i find out a discuss about Bakki shower but it happen stop at page 36 or 37 .. i didn't know what happen after that ? i feel likely everybody don't want to talk about it at this forum i shouldn't not bring it up but i just want some answer for it . Can someone give me that? Last page i read it talking about used lava rock or bio ball for it, is that working? i try to get some ceramic media but my dealer don't have it. if someones have a good shower can share with me on that ones .thank you

farne230 · 01-10-2008

Not sure which post or article you are referring to but I have been happy with the Bakki House media. The claim TDS will drop is correct. My initial finding did find a 10 point drop per week in TDS, not sure if BH can take all the credit but I was impressed. The main drawback IMO with using BH is the cost. I know there has been talk on various forums about where to find this product, but I have not heard where other then from Japan. Keirin Koi used to carry this product also. Regarding Lava rock and Bio balls (lots of plastic products out there), I would think the key would be the texture of the surfaces to retain, protect and keep clean & moist surfaces for bio slime to develop. I believe under high flow conditions, BH would fair higher over lava rock then plastics IMO.
Bob

Birdman · 01-10-2008

I built a DIY shower for my pond using sealed plywood and lava rock. I am flowing 8500 gph through it and realy love the results. So much so I am making new fiberglass trays to replace the wooden ones and will be offering the new fiberglass trays to DIY-ers. This picture is of the wooden trays durning construction.

Eugeneg · 01-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Birdman

I built a DIY shower for my pond using sealed plywood and lava rock. I am flowing 8500 gph through it and realy love the results. So much so I am making new fiberglass trays to replace the wooden ones and will be offering the new fiberglass trays to DIY-ers. This picture is of the wooden trays durning construction.

Very nice . I noticed that all the new baki shower units now look like plastic bottle crates holes on the sides . Why I dont know but must be something in it may be better aireation .
Regards
Eugene

MCA · 01-11-2008

nope....it is that those 4' plastic crate are MUCH cheaper than Momo's stainless versions!!!!

Got two stack in the backyard right now.

koiczar · 01-11-2008

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Originally Posted by MCA

nope....it is that those 4' plastic crate are MUCH cheaper than Momo's stainless versions!!!!

Got two stack in the backyard right now.

If I remember correctly, you're using the BH media, right? What flow rate are you putting through them? Did/do you notice a significant drop in your TDS since having them installed? I remember seeing a pic of your pond/showers on another thread. I like your setup. Maybe you could post a pic of the setup here with an explanation of flow and return to pond so we get a better idea of form and function.

Thanks Mike

jckoi · 01-11-2008

Ask Rob, at Majestic koi.
He has one set up and nice.
he has video on it too.
Jackson

MCA · 01-11-2008

By the time I finished installing my showers it got too cold to use them. So in March I will probably crank them up...depending on temp. Right now the media is all 1" bio balls. I think those are the next best thing to BS. The have lots of void space for plenty of gas exchange.

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nguyen4 Nisai Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: bay area ,ca Posts: 120	bakki shower hello kb member , last night on my research for my filter ( i plan for my new pond) i find out a discuss about Bakki shower but it happen stop at page 36 or 37 .. i didn't know what happen after that ? i feel likely everybody don't want to talk about it at this forum i shouldn't not bring it up but i just want some answer for it . Can someone give me that? Last page i read it talking about used lava rock or bio ball for it, is that working? i try to get some ceramic media but my dealer don't have it. if someones have a good shower can share with me on that ones .thank you

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01-10-2008	#2 (permalink)
gspotmc Jumbo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Walnut, Ca Posts: 807	[quote=nguyen4;100181]hello kb member , last night on my research for my filter ( i plan for my new pond) i find out a discuss about Bakki shower but it happen stop at page 36 or 37 .. i didn't know what happen after that ? i feel likely everybody don't want to talk about it at this forum i shouldn't not bring it up but i just want some answer for it . Can someone give me that? Last page i read it talking about used lava rock or bio ball for it, is that working? i try to get some ceramic media but my dealer don't have it. if someones have a good shower can share with me on that ones .thank you[/quote Try calling Majestic koi and look for Rob. I heard that he has a shipment of BH coming in. Try it you won't be sorry. Michael

01-10-2008	#4 (permalink)
farne230 Tategoi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 303	Not sure which post or article you are referring to but I have been happy with the Bakki House media. The claim TDS will drop is correct. My initial finding did find a 10 point drop per week in TDS, not sure if BH can take all the credit but I was impressed. The main drawback IMO with using BH is the cost. I know there has been talk on various forums about where to find this product, but I have not heard where other then from Japan. Keirin Koi used to carry this product also. Regarding Lava rock and Bio balls (lots of plastic products out there), I would think the key would be the texture of the surfaces to retain, protect and keep clean & moist surfaces for bio slime to develop. I believe under high flow conditions, BH would fair higher over lava rock then plastics IMO. Bob

01-11-2008	#7 (permalink)
MCA Tategoi Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 415	nope....it is that those 4' plastic crate are MUCH cheaper than Momo's stainless versions!!!! Got two stack in the backyard right now.

01-11-2008	#9 (permalink)
jckoi Nisai Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 123	Ask Rob, at Majestic koi. He has one set up and nice. he has video on it too. Jackson

01-11-2008	#10 (permalink)
MCA Tategoi Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 415	By the time I finished installing my showers it got too cold to use them. So in March I will probably crank them up...depending on temp. Right now the media is all 1" bio balls. I think those are the next best thing to BS. The have lots of void space for plenty of gas exchange.