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  1. Thread: "Humps"

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    I'm guessing that the magoi line is the less...

    I'm guessing that the magoi line is the less bulky one, and the ones bred with european carps are bulkier, based on what I know

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  2. Thread: "Humps"

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    Seems like Matsunosuke presents the body form...

    Seems like Matsunosuke presents the body form that suits my preference the most. I hope they do not cross breed with the ones with too much bulk

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  3. Thread: "Humps"

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    Funny cause most of the Japanese show koi I see...

    Funny cause most of the Japanese show koi I see possess short heads and high shoulders, which seem like each of the less desirable qualities

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  4. Thread: "Humps"

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    Seems like matsunosuke indeed has a different...

    Seems like matsunosuke indeed has a different shape compared to other farms.

    Interesting information you and mikem have mentioned about the blood lines and their recent history. Beats me on why...
  5. Thread: "Humps"

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    Never really understood why the Japanese...

    Never really understood why the Japanese deliberately want humps on their koi, most koi outside Japan that I see (in social media) have little to no humps, while the Japanese ones all have.

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  6. Hey thanks for the insight! As I live in a...

    Hey thanks for the insight! As I live in a tropical country, most of the koi here do not have bloated bodies (humps are also tiny), perhaps due to the hot climate causing much faster metabolism....
  7. From the top. You can see humps from top view.

    From the top. You can see humps from top view.
  8. Upon searching underwater videos of Matusunosuke...

    Upon searching underwater videos of Matusunosuke koi, I see that most of them indeed have little to no shoulder hump, however they have been over fed looking like footballs with undersized heads, in...
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    Israeli koi is actually a thing?

    I have been looking through some facebook groups and reading the threads, they have been talking about the differences between Israel koi and japanese koi. Aside from Israeli having KHV protection, I...
  10. Interesting insight you have there! On the...

    Interesting insight you have there! On the contrary, every single Japanese adult koi that I see have an exaggerated hump. After reading your post, it now seems like a high diet with slow metabolism...
  11. Hi Mike, I just want to share my observations. I...

    Hi Mike, I just want to share my observations. I live in the Philippines, and every time I see koi fish in ponds, pet shops and markets, every single one of them have no shoulder humps. Rather, it is...
  12. Are there ways to predict if a koi fish will develop a shoulder hump?

    I personally dislike koi fish with shoulder humps, and I would want to be able to know whether or not a certain fish will grow a shoulder hump or not. In the future when I choose koi fish, then I...
  13. I noticed that there are koi with excellent...

    I noticed that there are koi with excellent patterns, some with decent patterns while the rest are undesirable. I wonder if they have specific grades for that. In some cheaper markets they have these...
  14. Are koi mutts considered "culled" fishes?

    Good looking koi fry with recognizable patterns are often selected from millions of unattractive ones. The culled fishes are then killed (am I right?). However, how do koi mutts make it to the...
  15. Thread: "Humps"

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    I would say the reference of the head length is...

    I would say the reference of the head length is from the tip of the U shape to the mouth, the more acute the U shape, the shorter the head. Assuming that the distance from the gills to the mouth are...
  16. Our koi do not have shoulder humps but they are...

    Our koi do not have shoulder humps but they are not adults yet, just 3 years old on average. I view them mainly from the top, but notice that other people's koi fish when viewed from the top have...
  17. Thread: "Humps"

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    I would personally pick a koi without a shoulder...

    I would personally pick a koi without a shoulder hump, as in my opinion it is visually unappealing. I would rather have a koi fish with smooth transition from head to body when you look from...
  18. Hmm, I thought different varieties only had...

    Hmm, I thought different varieties only had different colors, I've never seen an index of different types of koi bodies
  19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrUt-4TdTik I...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrUt-4TdTik

    I think you're right, in this video a lot of koi do have visible humps, and this is due to feeding it to the point of making their bodies slightly...
  20. Hmm quite interesting, yeah some people say that...

    Hmm quite interesting, yeah some people say that larger fish tend to have humps, but some fish I see dont have any. No wonder all the koi featured in competitions have visible humps, I guess the...
  21. Do koi fish develop shoulder humps as they grow?

    I usually see large koi fish with shoulder humps, do they really develop humps when they grow big or is it just from overfeeding (and having a bloated body)?
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