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  1. It was a good time! Being amongst kindred...

    It was a good time! Being amongst kindred spirits is a very good thing! I was fascinated to learn that the SoCal ZNA show is not only the oldest of our American koi shows, but that it is also THE...
  2. morning Andy-- off in a few hours to the FIRST...

    morning Andy-- off in a few hours to the FIRST koi show in America- The SoCal ZNA show! First in continous annual shows and first ZNA chapter. I'm pumped! :) so this is a timely conversation we are...
  3. Excellent Contribution to the Internet scene,...

    Excellent Contribution to the Internet scene, Ricshaw.
    People who have arrived to the hobby in recent years have no idea as to what came before them and how that history of activity laid the ground...
  4. Morning Andy, long time no squabble! :) I...

    Morning Andy, long time no squabble! :)
    I suppose your comments are sincere and from the heart. Kinda like “we are the world" or "Imagine, if only---" from the Lennon song?
    In the past I've...
  5. Good Morning Ricshaw, I promised myself not to...

    Good Morning Ricshaw, I promised myself not to discuss this subject any further. In one sense it is no longer any of my business, and in another, these kinds of tensions are part of human nature and...
  6. I see. well I certainly don't want you feeling...

    I see. well I certainly don't want you feeling more sad that you currently sound so I'll end my comments here.
    I'm sure things will turn out for the best, either way.
    Back when we in the MAKC were...
  7. Hi Mike. Like Mark, who I've known for 20 plus...

    Hi Mike. Like Mark, who I've known for 20 plus years, I have known you for at least ten at this point so I think we can discuss this ‘safely’?

    JR's concept of leaders grooming their...
  8. Ok mark, conversation over. I think they have a...

    Ok mark, conversation over. I think they have a meeting later today in Florida if I read that right? Probably towards the end of the show.
    But don't do anything rash or drastic. Give it a couple...
  9. JR, I also have posted reluctantly-I gave up...

    JR, I also have posted reluctantly-I gave up politics in koi 10n years ago-for much of what you say here. I was actually looking for a response from someone there at the AKCA meeting to defend this...
  10. Hi Mark, I RELUCTENTLY respond to your post as I...

    Hi Mark, I RELUCTENTLY respond to your post as I really don't want involvement in this as I have friends on both sides of this difficult election.
    But since I know you for 20 years now and since...
  11. wow, Impressive. It is a premier show, no doubt. ...

    wow, Impressive. It is a premier show, no doubt. JR
  12. moved this to another thread as it is not...

    moved this to another thread as it is not appropriate for this topic. JR
  13. great idea! JR

    great idea! JR
  14. Very exciting news Philip! And wonderful to see,...

    Very exciting news Philip! And wonderful to see, with all the politics and with all the negativity regarding our organizations, that a new chapter is emerging! And now running strong!
    I really...
  15. moved as it interrupted the point of this thread....

    moved as it interrupted the point of this thread. JR
  16. well I like to 'think' I'm not about to "shoot...

    well I like to 'think' I'm not about to "shoot some Bull" after spending $730 on an airline ticket! LOLs

    This year we will be reviewing a lot of things and making some changes.
    we will also be...
  17. Jim , think about the organization and its...

    Jim , think about the organization and its survival and not personalities. The magazine KOI USA is back again thanks to the turn around Steve c and wife pulled off years ago now. And now under the...
  18. well thats true! we are pretty straight forward...

    well thats true! we are pretty straight forward and not too complicated. Unless it comes to the fish! Even those simple red and white ones get pretty interesting in their details! LOLs

    My name...
  19. Well, not exactly my point Jim! LOLs If you...

    Well, not exactly my point Jim! LOLs
    If you don't like AKCA structure and feel there is not enough democracy then you have to hate ZNA!!! (What?? The guy is the District Chairman what is he...
  20. Jim, you might be confusing the structure and...

    Jim, you might be confusing the structure and purpose of a national organization with the structure and purpose of a local club?
    The job of both is to find talent and develop it for the continuity...
  21. wow, that is SO very true. It is easy for us all...

    wow, that is SO very true. It is easy for us all to get confused in the structure of different management mechanisms. They each have their cultural origins, rules and styles for getting things done.
  22. Thanks Ricshaw, that is correct. For instance, we...

    Thanks Ricshaw, that is correct. For instance, we have an advisory board in ZNA , they are the chapter presidents. And they vote for the head of the board every two years. And that elected individual...
  23. Yep. the surface conversion is a no brainer, the...

    Yep. the surface conversion is a no brainer, the old guard messed up with a response to a threat that may ultimately be considered poor form by both fair minded membership and by Robert of Roberts...
  24. hi Jim, when I say old guard I really do mean the...

    hi Jim, when I say old guard I really do mean the system of AKCA ( mostly the orginal core of which Bob and joan Finnegan are its heart and soul)
    I'm telling you something that you may or may not...
  25. Hi, yes your point is taken. And that will play...

    Hi, yes your point is taken. And that will play out as it should. I was just wondering tho-- ( always a dangerous thing! LOLs). the bad form of the old guard aside, what is actually being voted ON? (...
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